Morgana Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 18 hours ago, d.elliott said: Data would show that this is circa 1903 Thank you so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Sylte Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) So I’ve acquired a 35 button (plus left side drone) steel reed, rosewood ended Lachenal with serial number 90503. Where does this fall for manufacturing date? Edited October 9, 2023 by John Sylte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes williams Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Hi John, We would estimate this as circa 1886. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentin Nourdin Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Hi, I just bought two Lachenal in an auction sale, could you try to date them ? The first is an Anglo number 76103. The second is an English number 35066. I don't have more details until I fetch them. Thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes williams Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Hi Valentin, We would estimate Anglo 76103 as circa 1883 and English 35066 as 1897. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerT Posted November 6, 2023 Share Posted November 6, 2023 Hi, i've got a Lachenal EC, steel reeds, tutor model, serial #38559. My guesstimate is 1905 but maybe not. If you'd be kind enough to check the date for me, that'd be great. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes williams Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Hi Roger, Our current estimate for English 38559 is circa 1900 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Acott Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Wes can you give a date for a treble 48 key no 9944 Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes williams Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 Hi Mike, Circa 1863. We believe Lachenal started his English numbers at 5000 in 1858, so its an early one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Acott Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Wes, this is very pretty as the ends are covered with mother of pearl inlays but it is not the best player being so early. it will be for sale very soon . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Acott Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Hello Wes, can you give me a date on an Edeophone 58 key English ser no 47198. Regards. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes williams Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Mike, Circa 1907, so this one is in the next century and almost 50 years younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Acott Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 Thanks for that Wes the last one is a 72 key new model serial no 836 metal ended with Erinoid buttons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes williams Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Does not compute 😬 - 1. Erinoid in rod form wasn't introduced until 1927. 2. 836 is only in the Duet or Anglo number series. See my previous answer to your query on English 9944. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Acott Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Hello Wes,this is a strange one as it is definitely a duet the number is stamped Lachenal & Co PATENT London WC in the right sided front apex, the engraving style is the same so I can only assume it is all original. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes williams Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Ah-ha! You didn't say it was a duet, so I assumed yet another English. 836 is likely to be a Crane Duet from c.1910. So I checked and its already on the database as a 71 key (1 air button not counted?), with inset metal ends, bone buttons, steel reeds, and 7 fold bellows with elongated sides. It has appeared twice on ebay over the past 25 years, and was also reported by a secondary source - you? To try to take this a bit further the Crane patent expired in 1910 which is why it's marked as a Lachenal rather than a Crane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 On 11/8/2023 at 11:37 AM, Mike Acott said: ,,, the ends are covered with mother of pearl inlays ,,, Mother of pearl inlays sound highly unusual for a Lachenal Mike, they normally used engraved nickel-silver ones - even on the most intricately inlaid instruments like my #15347: I'd be fascinated to see a photo of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Acott Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Hello Stephen, The inlays are definitely mother of pearl, the end boxes are not split in half like a normal Lachenal but more like some cheaper continental made instruments. This means that air losses are much more likely to happen, I have improved this aspect of it but it will never compete against a later built box. One good thing is the inlays on the sides are much larger than your box. I will see if I can get a couple of photos off to you Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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