wes williams Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 Hi Jill, Your concertina is a Crane system, 48 bone button, with rosewood ends and we would estimate it to have been made circa 1924. Lachenal closed in 1933. I've answered your message to me with a few more details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Cardin Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 I need a date for a 31-button anglo #142578. The number is stamped on the left reed pan. It was converted to riveted action by Colin Dipper and has a bellows by Rosalie Dipper. My guess is around 1895. Am I close? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d.elliott Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Sarah, #142578, I would agree with that date, based upon the research done by Downright and Wes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes williams Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Thanks Dave, I may be a little tardy in replies for a while, as identical twin grandsons arrived last week 👨❤️💋👨 and we are helping out with their older sister and brother. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sionainn Posted Tuesday at 07:07 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:07 AM (edited) Congratulations on the twins, Wes! I have a 30 button anglo Lachenal & Co with rosewood ends, serial number 160867. Judging from another post with a similar serial number, I'm guessing this was made around 1898. I'm wondering if anyone knows what species of rosewood Lachenal was using at that time? I was hoping to bring my concertina on an upcoming trip to Ireland and then back to the US, and I'm trying to determine how feasible that might be re. CITES, based on whether or not this is Brazilian rosewood. (I've read up on USFWS permits for bringing it back into the US.) Thanks in advance for any information available! Edited Tuesday at 07:08 AM by Sionainn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes williams Posted Tuesday at 01:24 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 01:24 PM 6 hours ago, Sionainn said: Congratulations on the twins, Wes! I have a 30 button anglo Lachenal & Co with rosewood ends, serial number 160867. Judging from another post with a similar serial number, I'm guessing this was made around 1898. I'm wondering if anyone knows what species of rosewood Lachenal was using at that time? I was hoping to bring my concertina on an upcoming trip to Ireland and then back to the US, and I'm trying to determine how feasible that might be re. CITES, based on whether or not this is Brazilian rosewood. (I've read up on USFWS permits for bringing it back into the US.) Thanks in advance for any information available! Thanks Sionainn - The twins are doing well, and although almost identical, one has a tiny mole by his right eye, so we know which is which. Circa 1898 would be our estimate for #160867. For questions on CITES it would probably be better to start a new thread, or ask on an existing CITES one, as your question will become buried in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sionainn Posted Tuesday at 08:03 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:03 PM Thanks. Wes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassconcertina.net Posted Thursday at 09:54 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:54 PM I have just acquired Lachenal 23758 which is a 29 key English G-bass. It used to belong to Mike Harding. How old might it be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassconcertina.net Posted Thursday at 10:42 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:42 PM 48 minutes ago, Bassconcertina.net said: I have just acquired Lachenal 23758 which is a 29 key English G-bass. It used to belong to Mike Harding. How old might it be? oops, never mind, I was told it was a Lachenal but it's actually a Wheatstone. I didn't see the makers label on the Right-hand side. still does anyone know how old it is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes williams Posted Thursday at 11:38 PM Share Posted Thursday at 11:38 PM There are missing Wheatstone ledgers between December 1891 (to 21353) and May 1910 (from 25000) so you could do a rough calculation, but the owner of Wheatstone (Edward Chidley Snr) died in 1899 and the business passed to his sons (Edward Jnr and Percy) who made major changes to the manufacture, and the firm also moved to West Street in 1905, which would both upset a simple calculation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassconcertina.net Posted Friday at 02:52 PM Share Posted Friday at 02:52 PM 15 hours ago, wes williams said: There are missing Wheatstone ledgers between December 1891 (to 21353) and May 1910 (from 25000) so you could do a rough calculation, but the owner of Wheatstone (Edward Chidley Snr) died in 1899 and the business passed to his sons (Edward Jnr and Percy) who made major changes to the manufacture, and the firm also moved to West Street in 1905, which would both upset a simple calculation. Its says on the label: "15 West St Charing X Rd" so probably around 1906. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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