Stephen Chambers Posted November 14 Share Posted November 14 51 minutes ago, Mike Acott said: ... the end boxes are not split in half like a normal Lachenal but more like some cheaper continental made instruments. ... I will see if I can get a couple of photos off to you Thanks Mike, I've only ever seen that continental style of construction on early examples of the mahogany-ended Lachenal People's Concertina, and on (the very closely numbered) #9952 that had what appeared to be "Killarney Ware" inlaid marquetry ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentin Nnourdin Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 On 11/6/2023 at 11:16 AM, wes williams said: Hi Valentin, We would estimate Anglo 76103 as circa 1883 and English 35066 as 1897. Hi, The first number wasn't clear but in fact my Anglo has id 176103, could you date it ? Thanks a lot, Valentin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes williams Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 Hi Valentin, Six digit numbers often have the first '1' hidden by the fretwork. 176103 would be circa 1905. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentin Nnourdin Posted November 20 Share Posted November 20 Yes that's the case, and the seller wasn't really attentive. Thanks ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconstab Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 (edited) I am looking at a Lachenal English baritone, 44 keys, slightly raised key areas, number 55209 on metal escutcheon, that has been through Chris Algar's hands so it may already be in your records. I would be interested in knowing its date. Thanks for your sterling work! Edited November 22 by iconstab missed word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d.elliott Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 iconstab, Raised ends = 'a new model' design, 44 keys would indicate that the lower octave or so of reeds are not radially mounted but are parallel, and of a much larger design than the rest of the range, I always think of these as being a 'band design' giving more volume and punch than a 48k fully radial design. The top end of the 48k range being sacrificed to create sufficient space. 55209 serial would be around 1912/ perhaps early 1913. (based upon research by others) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconstab Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 43 minutes ago, d.elliott said: iconstab, Raised ends = 'a new model' design, 44 keys would indicate that the lower octave or so of reeds are not radially mounted but are parallel, and of a much larger design than the rest of the range, I always think of these as being a 'band design' giving more volume and punch than a 48k fully radial design. The top end of the 48k range being sacrificed to create sufficient space. 55209 serial would be around 1912/ perhaps early 1913. (based upon research by others) Thanks for this. Yes, it's a great box - the sound is not only rich but loud, but still plays reasonably fast. I won't miss the upper notes - I never stray that far on the treble either (bat territory). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 On 11/22/2023 at 3:10 PM, d.elliott said: Raised ends = 'a new model' design, 44 keys would indicate that the lower octave or so of reeds are not radially mounted but are parallel, and of a much larger design than the rest of the range, I always think of these as being a 'band design' giving more volume and punch than a 48k fully radial design. The top end of the 48k range being sacrificed to create sufficient space. I'd think of them as being intended to be "band instruments" Dave, and a strong influence on Colin Dipper's bass/baritone Anglos - like the ones Cormac Begley has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 I have one that seems to be from the same family but in this case a large size 37 key tenor New Model. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sally roy Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 Hi there, I have an anglo Lachenal 20 button concertina. I don't see a serial number on the outside but a piece of paper that came with it says #165210. I am told it plays beautifully and is in good condition. I am wondering about it's approximate age and resale value. Thank you for your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes williams Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 We would estimate 165210 as circa 1898. We can't give you a resale value as it depends very much on the condition and the amount of work needed to bring it up to playing standard, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted Sunday at 03:02 AM Share Posted Sunday at 03:02 AM Hello team and thanks for such a great website. I am hoping you can date my 20 button Anglo which I inherited indirectly from my great uncle. I am guessing it was bought in or near Bradford. It looks very similar to the images I found online of Paul Hardy A#2 instrument number 167221 which he dates to 1899. The only difference I can see is in the fretwork, which appears a little more elaborate on my instrument. Details are 20 button in bone, 5 fold bellows, steel reeds, wood ends. The number is 166871 It was restored about 20 years ago by Pierre Hooft in Adelaide, South Australia. He did a lovely job. RIP. Thanks for your thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes williams Posted Sunday at 01:42 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:42 PM 166871 - We would estimate this instrument as circa 1899 too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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