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Dating A Lachenal From The Serial Number


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12 hours ago, 4to5to6 said:

Please see attached photos… Is this 15769 or perhaps 55769?  It is an early Lachenal treble that was modified with carved bone ends.  It would be nice to know the serial and date.  There are no other serial numbers except these two in the reed pans.

My guesses on what the number might read are the same as yours. But since you say its an early treble 15769 would be c.1870, while 55769 would be c.1915. Anybody else have a guess?

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On 2/15/2024 at 3:44 PM, wes williams said:

Yes, thats the serial, but unfortunately I can't read it from your photo. At a guess its 172xxx which would be circa 1902. Anybody else have any idea?

I found it! 172502.

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On 2/15/2024 at 3:44 PM, wes williams said:

Yes, thats the serial, but unfortunately I can't read it from your photo. At a guess its 172xxx which would be circa 1902. Anybody else have any idea?

I've found a more clear number, it's 172502

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Hello Dowright. I may purchase a Lachenal Anglo 30 button, #164620. I’d really like to know approximate year. Greg J said maybe 1918 but would check with Randy Merris but didn’t get the response. This was eight years ago. Here is info that the owner sent me while I’m trying to decide whether to buy it. Please see attached. Greg said he changed from five bellows to six. Thank you!

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I think you won't get any responses, as a number like that isn't valid for Lachenal English system concertinas. They have been recorded up to a little over 60,000. It may be a mis-stamping, but if you could check it carefully you might find a different number. As you have had the reed pans out, the number is usually stamped on them, but it may well be in two parts, separated by one of the dividers.

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On 2/15/2024 at 3:44 PM, wes williams said:

Yes, thats the serial, but unfortunately I can't read it from your photo. At a guess its 172xxx which would be circa 1902. Anybody else have any idea?

172502 is the full number. Found it on another part of the concertina.

 

ETA: I didn't see you'd answered this already. Thanks!

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22 hours ago, Cathasach said:

172502 is the full number. Found it on another part of the concertina.

 

ETA: I didn't see you'd answered this already. Thanks!

Glad we finally got sorted out!

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Wes, based on your previous answers, I have a Lachenal anglo I guesstimate to 1909. Number 183480.  It is an interesting one; 36 buttons plus air, black 7-fold bellows, rosewood ends.

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