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    Folk Music, and Baroque Music. Developing keyboards for Concertinas and Melodeons that enable ordinary folk, who (like myself) are not virtuosos; to play easily in a multitude of different keys on the same instrument.
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    South-west of England

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  1. I have nothing to add to everything that I wrote 18 years ago, (see link above). The advantages of Hayden specification over the "parallel" arrangement becomes more apparent, when playing more complex music, on the larger instruments. I must say that I have never seen any reason why makers could not make the fretting of the ends in such a way that the handles could be fixed in several different ways. Wheatstone made Duet Concertinas with the uncut part of the fretting below the handles in an "infinity" pattern. This would allow the handles to be attached in an infinite number of different ways ! Inventor.
  2. I see that there's one in the Akkordeon Museum https://akkordeon-museum.ch/ Opening page shows one center stage in the first photograph. I can't find more details about it , but my German is not very good, so maybe I have missed the full details. Inventor
  3. There is one in the Horniman Museum, Forest Hill, London. It is now fully restored. However when I first visited the Horniman in the 1950s, many of the musical instruments were in a very sorry state, owing to neglect during the war. The Melophone was was totally fallen apart in it's case, and you could see all the internal mechanism with wires connecting from the buttons to little trap doors. This was much more interesting to me, as I have always been fascinated by how musical instruments work. Inventor.
  4. Thank-you David. It's always nice to hear from someone who enjoys my little idea. Best wishes, Brian.
  5. This is not a Jeffries instrument, but a modern Hayden Duet instrument made specially for myself by a modern maker. Inventor.
  6. Regarding bisonoric buttons I had confused myself into thinking that you also intended to add "Midi" to the concertina. However I see that Midi was only required in the thread that Don Taylor referred back to. I still would not advise them on a Duet concertina. I have a couple at the top end of my large (69 button) concertina, and often play them in the wrong direction ! Inventor.
  7. Quick answer to Isel's 51st button question - "none of these" ! Once you go beyond 46 buttons, I would put the priority on adding the Key of Bb to the easy-peasy options. Certainly players of traditional dance music in New England U.S.A. think so. This is the thinking behind both the Beaumont and Peacock. There might be different priorities in Spain ? For the 4 buttons to make 50, I would go for adding a low Bb & eb to the left hand side and the corresponding bb and eb' at the bottom left hand corner of the right side. These to be added into the center of the reed-pan of an existing instrument. However if starting from scratch on a newly made instrument: I would recommend putting both the low Bb and c on a deeper box in the center of the reed-pan, with the corresponding right hand notes similarly on the right hand; then putting the eb & eb' round the edge of the pans. Button 51 :- I would add a high eb" to the right hand side. This would repeat the d#" that you already have, but greatly facilitates playing in the key of Bb . So where would this go you may ask ! If you look inside the right hand of a Wheatstone 46 button concertina you will see that there are two very small blank spaces at the top left hand side. Added together there is sufficient space to add another note round the circumference of the reed-pan. To do all this really requires a whole new right hand reed-pan, and a rebuild of the right hand action with a certain amount of criss-cross action to prevent action levers being too short. I am totally aware that doing all of this will totally negate any guaranty you have on the instrument. You asked me a question and I have given you my best answer. Probably if you want a 51 button in a 6.25" hexagon, the best answer is to commission a new instrument made along the lines I suggest. I see that another four replies have arrived since I started to type this, so other solutions may have been put forward. If you are considering adding midi don't even consider bisonoric notes, for whilst this is possible (and has been done on melodeons) it is an absolute minefield to get it to work. Inventor.
  8. P.S. I can see a way of upping the reed count to 51 buttons for a Hayden Duet in a 6.25 Hexagon, without compromising the reed scale of the lower pitch reeds. This would not easy but it would be just possible, and might mean leaving out an air button. As mentioned you just need to play a note to evacuate the air before putting the concertina away in it's case, and I have heard this done by many English concertina players over the years. Inventor.
  9. The Wheatstone standard 46 button Hayden Duet (21 L & 25 R) is a 6.25 " Hexagon. The reeds are set out radially as are almost all Wheatstone concertinas. I personally have never ever needed an air button whilst playing, and have only ever used an air button before starting or after finishing. The 46 button Wheatstone has an air button incorporated into the front of the right hand, hand rest, which was specially designed by Steve Dickinson, and which opens onto the round hole in the center of the reed-pan. Inventor.
  10. There is one factor about the construction of the Bandoneon which alters the timbre. This is placing the reeds on continuous rather than individual reed plates. Russian "Bayan" accordions are also constructed in this way which gives the timbre that Russians favor. I suggest you find someone who plays a Russian Bayan and see if this is what you are looking for. I once had a concertina made in Moscow by a bayan accordion maker which had all the reeds of each side on a single plate. This instrument had a timbre much closer to the sound of a traditional concertina than a hybrid accordion reeded concertina. Inventor.
  11. My suggestion for a solution depends on the structure of the inside of a Stagi Hayden concertina, which I have never seen, but perhaps someone might put a picture of these on this website. It assumes that the accordion style reed plates are mounted on accordion style reed blocks. 1) Obtain a second-hand 46 button Stagi Hayden concertina. 2) Starting with the lowest pitch reeds, take out the reed plates one row at a time and prepare to replace them two spaces along the row. 3) Lengthen the tone chambers to fit the reed plate that is two whole tones lower in pitch. You should end up with a row with two empty spaces at the bottom and a pair of reed plates left over. 4) Repeat this for for the next highest run of notes 5) On the third run of notes use the two left over reed plates from the first run, to fit into the first two tone chambers, moving the other reed plates along as before. 6) Repeat (5) on the fourth row of each side and the fifth row of the right hand side. 7) Buy the extra 8 missing reed plates (i.e. the Abs, Bbs, Dbs & Ebs ). These shouldn't be too expensive if you buy second hand from an accordion repairer. Fit these as before. ? You will also have to touch up the tuning, as the pitch of reeds may change a bit when they are moved around. This will now be a Hayden concertina in Db, Ab, Eb, Bb, F & C. Inventor.
  12. Yes that is the air button in the handle. Steve Dickinson's instruments (i.e. present day Wheatstone's) have a wonderful response and dynamic range, and are of the very finest quality. If you like The Hayden system, sell the car and mortgage the house to buy it ! Inventor.
  13. Please let me scotch the myth about Duet concertinas being difficult; this only really applies to the MACCAN duet. A CRANE Duet is fairly straightforward, and the HAYDEN duet is very easy. The ELISE (Hayden system) duet is of the same quality and cost as the ROCHELLE. To try out this system find someone with an iphone and they will be able to show you a playable version of the Hayden keyboard on screen. Inventor.
  14. You should get in touch with the - International Concertina Association - (ICA), they have a web site . Most of their members are English Concertina players, who are mostly classical rather than folk orientated players. When I first started playing concertina, in the sixties, (Anglo, coming from Melodeon), I asked Father Kenneth Loveless, (the then President of the ICA); who I knew through meetings of Morris Ring, EFDSS courses, and Sidmouth Festival; about the ICA, should I join ? However he told me that practically all the members were classical music reading English Concertina players, and as an ear playing Anglo player, I might not have much in common with them. It wasn't until many years later when I had taken up a duet concertina, that I finally joined the ICA. I am not decrying the ICA who are now much more open to all different kinds of music, and have many more Anglo and Duet players than they ever used to, but I think that you (McDouglas) might enjoy the meetings or weekends of one their associated groups. Inventor. P.S. On playing at the Albert Hall:- At the Tango Concert, the penultimate night of this seasons Albert Hall Proms, I was disappointed that the Bandoneon players were practically drowned out by the totally unneeded full orchestra behind them. Inventor.
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