Geoff Wooff Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 (edited) Heads up for an auction on the 19th November in Sidmouth UK. www.potburysauctions.co.uk A Dipper EC . Looks like a 48 Tenor. Amboyna veneered 10 sided ends... catalogues will be out soon. Edited November 11, 2019 by Geoff Wooff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrtle's cook Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 That, kind sir, is the very definition of a tease! :-) Mouth salivating in anticipation, wallet trembling.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Wooff Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, Myrtle's cook said: That, kind sir, is the very definition of a tease! ? Mouth salivating in anticipation, wallet trembling.... Err..... yes indeed ! So, the big question is 'what's it worth ?' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doodle Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 If only I played English!!!! So boooooootiful!!!! This must have been someone's prized possession - wonder what the back-story is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Molkentin Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, doodle said: If only I played English!!!! well, you would need *some* extra money as well then - and I've heard from English players who are bemoaning their fate of not being able to acquire such a beauty... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wild Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Bidders need to remember the hammer price does not include the auctioneer's mark up nor VAT. VAT at 20% is calculated on the total price including the markup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Wooff Posted November 12, 2019 Author Share Posted November 12, 2019 33 minutes ago, John Wild said: Bidders need to remember the hammer price does not include the auctioneer's mark up nor VAT. VAT at 20% is calculated on the total price including the markup. I think you'll find that the VAT is only charged on the auctioneer's commission not on the sale price + commission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike byrne Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 It's here https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/potburys/catalogue-id-srpo10103/lot-8fcae95f-8a47-4358-b8e9-ab0301055174 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wild Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Geoff Wooff said: I think you'll find that the VAT is only charged on the auctioneer's commission not on the sale price + commission. I think you are right - my mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrtle's cook Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 The description appears on the site appears taken from what is perhaps the maker's description or a bill of sale (or similar), my italics: 'Colin Dipper forty-eight button 'English' system concertina tenor (viola range) with top note F and the top notes of the normal 48 keys are located at the bottom. Ten-sided amboyna wood on hardwood core with hand cut fret and ebony edges. Aircraft aluminium action levers, naval brass capped lightweight buttons, best handmade steel reeds in brass frames, ebony finger plates. It has dark green Scottish hand finished goatskin bellows and was made in the 1980s. It comes with a hard carrying case.' If I understand this correctly, then this is a custom layout - and a little unusual - I am taking this as the bottom 4 buttons on each side playing the four notes usually found at the top of each keyboard. Am I missing something here, not seen this before, but can see it has some utility?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofty Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 That is a thing of astonishing beauty. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Molkentin Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Myrtle's cook said: The description appears on the site appears taken from what is perhaps the maker's description or a bill of sale (or similar) Yes, the description has been revised and approved by the maker, following a discussion on facebook... Edited November 13, 2019 by Wolf Molkentin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrtle's cook Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 That is a helpful clarification - thanks Wolf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Wooff Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Myrtle's cook said: If I understand this correctly, then this is a custom layout - and a little unusual - I am taking this as the bottom 4 buttons on each side playing the four notes usually found at the top of each keyboard. Am I missing something here, not seen this before, but can see it has some utility?? Probably easier to think of it as the bottom 48 notes of a Tenor Treble. So the lowest note on the right hand side will be C an octave below Middle C. Wim Wakker also offers this layout on his new EC's and calls it Tenor . I suspect, for many of us, this could be an ideal range, certainly the majority of music I play will fit nicely. Edited November 13, 2019 by Geoff Wooff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrtle's cook Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Thanks Geoff - that had been my first thought, but I had clearly confused myself with an over-literal reading of the later part of the description. Yes - very, very useful... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Harrison Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Anyone know what the two (machine ?) screws are for, on the side that would be closest the players body ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprunghub Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Neck strap for playing standing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Wooff Posted November 13, 2019 Author Share Posted November 13, 2019 Those screws will be for wrist straps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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