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Hi, Does anyone know what date roughly my Lachenal concertina is please? It has a serial/model number of 85842. It's a 31 button model..

Thanks for your help

 

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On 7/2/2019 at 4:20 PM, stewbob said:

Hi, Does anyone know what date roughly my Lachenal concertina is please? It has a serial/model number of 85842. It's a 31 button model..

Thanks for your help

 

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thanks for the info - 1885 - wow.. 

not sure how i can tell the difference between steel and brass reeds? don't know anything about these instruments.

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Hi Dowright

 

I have a Lachenal & Co, Anglo 20 key .........serial number 149300.

 

She has wooden fretwork, bone buttons, and brass reeds.  There is an L stamped on the wood inside.

 

Im wondering if you can give an approximate date. We’ve done some simple maths based on other dates and numbers and think it’s possibly turn of the century?

 

Would value your opinion.

 

Many thanks

Mindy

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20 hours ago, Dowright said:

Mindy,

Circa 1897.  ("Arch, Davenport" bought No. 144430 in 1896)

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Thanks for that  Dowright. I felt a little silly when on opening the other side there was an R stamp obviously for right and left. 

 

But that date fits with what I thought, though a tiny bit earlier. 

 

Fabulous ?. Thanks

Mindy

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Hi Dowright,

 

I just bought a new concertina today - another 20 key Lachenal.

 

She has steel reeds which is stamped on the case also and bone buttons.

 

Assuming Lachenal and Co due to number sequence though the label is no longer present unfortunately.

 

Serial number is 100294.

 

Would you have some idea of the date please?

 

Mindy

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That’s brilliant to know. Thanks so much! I wonder how many people worked in the factory,  and whether they made them on a production line type system?

 

I wonder if they realised when they were popping them out all those years ago we’d be playing and loving them in 2019?

 

Brilliant

 

Mindy

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On 7/3/2019 at 11:29 AM, stewbob said:

thanks for the info - 1885 - wow.. 

not sure how i can tell the difference between steel and brass reeds? don't know anything about these instruments.

Left- Brass           Right- Steel

 

The reed bodies or shoes are usually brass on both but the tongue is different.

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48 English, metal ends, solid metal keys, 6 fold bellows, and has valves on both sides that I’m told are “bowing valves.”

serial number 33, 598

 

It was likely made in 1895-1896

 

I found a patent sticker inside for the valves?  See photos.

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