bigsqueezergeezer Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Richard, when starting the Wheatstone/Jeffries anglo thread, said that he was "considering acquiring a Jefferies as a Sister to his Wheatstone". Up to now, I've always thought my Concertina was a "boy". (for no specific reason it has to be said) So, if they were to have a gender, what would it be? I know that some languages give genders to objects (eg German), so do they have a gender for the Concertina? Does any one else consider their pride and joy to be a boy? Derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Evans Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Yes, I believe they do have gender association. My Wheatsone Aeola 64 note was "The Stone". Without a doubt a male and a macho male at that whose motto was "Lead, follow, or get the h*** outta my way!" My current squeeze is a Morse Albion named "Tina". She stood up and said "I am woman, hear me roar" the very first time my fingers flew across her black little buttons. She is a saucy lass and I cannot be without her ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Stallard Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 I've tried to anthropomorphize my instruments, but it felt kind of pointless, so I quit trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart estell Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 (edited) Mine certainly do, though not to the extent that they have names . It's more a case of default pronoun when referring to them ("he's a bit too loud for this song", "she's got a grumbly valve" etc.) than anything else. My anglos and my Jeffries Duet are male, and my Maccann duet is female. I have absolutely no idea why - nor do I know why my Land Rover is (very definitely) female. ...edited to note the passing of my 200th post. At this rate I'll never reach "boxer" status... Edited February 21, 2005 by stuart estell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wild Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 I have heard a number of players with bass concertinas referring to them as 'Grandfather'. My miniature concertina is generally referred to as my little tina, and therefore must be female . Therefore if pressed for an answer, I would say that my Lachenal edeophone and my Wheatstone Hayden duet are little Tina's mum and Dad. - John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Yes, I believe they do have gender association.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not I. I don't think of my instruments as having either gender or person-ality. I've only ever given one of my instruments a name, but that was sort of a joke, and I've long since stopped thinking of it by that name or any other. That one was my 80+1 button Maccann, which I named "Baby Huey", after a cartoon character who is an infant duck of monster size. But infants don't normally evoke gender associations... in fact, we often color-code them with pink or blue decorations to indicate their otherwise-imperceptible gender. So even with a name, Baby Huey was genderless, but now it's just my big Maccann, or sometimes "my monster Maccann". So my concertinas are concertinas, that's all. But that's quite enough, for concertinas are wonderful enough in their own right. They don't need to be people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Evans Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 (edited) Stuart, I've been dying to ask...why did you know your Rover was a female? Sounds like the beginning of a fun song to me: "for I knew she was a rover," As I'm sure Jim would rightly dissaprove, I've been assigning gender to my cars for past 30 or so years. In all that time I've only owned one who was difinetly female (had nothing to do with temprement on starting or any such cliche jokes, she was just most definetly a female 74' Mercedes 300TD station wagon named Leonora). Edited February 22, 2005 by Mark Evans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Oliver Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 You shouldn't anthropomorphise concertinas, they don't like it, you know Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart estell Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Stuart, I've been dying to ask...why did you know your Rover was a female? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Probably the first time I shouted "come on, lass!" at it when trying to get it to hurtle up a particularly steep hill in a gear that wasn't low enough... (mental note: uphill = 3rd gear) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 ...I'm sure Jim would rightly dissaprove...<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why would I do that? Just because I don't share one of your tastes, doesn't mean I have to disapprove of it. Jack Sprat and his wife got along just fine. For all I care, you could concertinamorphise the people you meet, e.g.: ... "He thinks he's a real Excelsior, doesn't he?" ... "Isn't she a classy New Model!" ... "He has the presence of an Æola." ... "He's small, but strong and nimble, like a Dipper County Clare." ... "She's a Paragon, she is." ... Etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Evans Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 (edited) Good idea Jim. Let's see, were I to apply that to myself, I'd have to go with the Scholer from my youth (which is setting on the shelf above me) blown bellows, two buttons forever stuck and a windy moan like like a mornful old Jersey cow. Yep, that's me most days. Curses, I'll be doing this all day now. What a Bastari that guy is! My oh my, she's a cute little Tedrow! Salva me! Edited February 22, 2005 by Mark Evans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Hello Folks I am a bit surprised and even delighted to have inspired this energetic sharing of ideas. But before it goes too far and people get the wrong idea I need to share something that might bring to a halt all this introspection, speculation and assumption! When I referred to the gender of a Jeffries as a female, (1) I was only looking at a photograph (2) It was very late at nght, and (3) I had enjoyed quite a lot of drink, and (4) yes...the lights were very dim. I don't mean to make excuses, but really, in the dark it all kind of feels the same. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigsqueezergeezer Posted February 22, 2005 Author Share Posted February 22, 2005 I don't mean to make excuses, but really, in the dark it all kind of feels the same. Richard <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Does it depend on which buttons you press? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Besser Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 So, if they were to have a gender, what would it be? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> For mine, neither, at least since it was fixed (gives a whole new meaning to what Paul Groff does in that shop of his) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhomylly Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 My Edgley is definitely male. Paradoxically, my Tedrow Turbo Stagi is female, but very, er, butch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Evans Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Ouch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barnert Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 I need to share something that might bring to a halt all this introspection, speculation and assumption! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No such luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Timson Posted February 23, 2005 Share Posted February 23, 2005 If anyone would like to volunteer their (female) Jeffries in a breeding experiment, I would be delighted to introduce her to my Jeffries, Kilroy by name. I would be happy to share the offspring with you, though be warned: since the nuptials may take some time and results are not guaranteed, she may have to stay with me for a while... Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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