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Jackie note layout/range differences

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So everything I saw on the web said the range goes from G below middle C to the c 2 octaves above middle C.

 

I bought a used Jackie thinking that range would be fine for what I am playing. The used Jackie arrived today & needs the middle Bb reeds tweaked which I'll do tonight or tomorrow. 

 

The thing that puzzles me is that even though I have 30 buttons the range is smaller than what all the charts on the web show. It only goes from G below middle C to the A above the staff. I also noticed that there are both Ab & G# keys in the 2 higher octaves. 

 

Did the design change at some point? 

 

Can anyone shed light on why the note layout is different on mine?

 

Thank you,

Aldon Sanders

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Hmm, well the note chart on their website seems to match what you were expecting: http://www.concertinaconnection.com/jackie layout.htm

 

But if you got it used, maybe one of the previous owners made some modifications? When you say there are two G#'s, is one of them where the high C "should" be?

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Sounds completely foxed and almost unfix-able without some new reeds. I would return it and not touch that Bb or anything else inside it.

 

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I'll try to post some pictures.

 

The button layout is different. 

 

Here's the righthand side:

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37 minutes ago, Mjolnir said:

Hmm, well the note chart on their website seems to match what you were expecting: http://www.concertinaconnection.com/jackie layout.htm

 

But if you got it used, maybe one of the previous owners made some modifications? When you say there are two G#'s, is one of them where the high C "should" be?

 

No there are A flat buttons where you'd expect them to be and a G sharps in their expected location. This happens in the middle & high octaves - not the low octave.

 

Aldon

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Would this perhaps be a baritone or "Jack" rather than a "Jackie" ?   Admittedly, I don't know what the note difference would be.

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This photo from concertina connection shows somewhat similar layout to OP's instrument (left hand side?). It might be an early version or prototype. 🐐

 

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38 minutes ago, wunks said:

Would this perhaps be a baritone or "Jack" rather than a "Jackie" ?   Admittedly, I don't know what the note difference would be.

The Jack is exactly an octave lower than a Jackie so the button layouts should be the same.

 

Looking at the photo then maybe it is an early version.

 

Do the notes played (use a tuner) actually correspond to the same notes on a standard treble EC?

 

If they do then I guess it probably is an early version because I can't see Wim Wakker coming up with a non-standard EC layout.

 

It would be worth contacting Concertina Connection about your box.  They are usually pretty quick to answer their emails.

 

 

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or a copy which a. doesn't match the CC layout but b. has their logo illicitly attached? 🙄

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11 minutes ago, Wolf Molkentin said:

or a copy which a. doesn't match the CC layout but b. has their logo illicitly attached? 🙄

If the action looks like the one posted by Takayuki YAGI then it is not one of the Chinese concertinas with a fake badge on it.

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1 minute ago, Don Taylor said:

If the action looks like the one posted by Takayuki YAGI then it is not one of the Chinese concertinas with a fake badge on it.

 

good point Don

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I emailed CC last night and had this response waiting in my inbox this morning:

________________

Hi Aldon,
 
Back in 2002 we produced a few experimental models before settling on the current layout. You have a very early model...
 
Regards,
William
Concertina Connection Inc.
Wakker Concertinas
____________
 
Mystery solved.
 
I'm glad it's not a fake. In a couple years it will be a 'rare early vintage classic'!
 
Thanks to all for your input.
 
 

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10 minutes ago, Aldon Sanders said:
Mystery solved.
 
I'm glad it's not a fake. In a couple years it will be a 'rare early vintage classic'!

Yes indeed, but you can always trade it in sometime in the future for, say, a Concertina Connection Busker and Concertina Connection will allow the original full price of your instrument against its purchase.  You could ask William what the trade-in value would be.

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