Chris Ghent Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Mohsen Amini https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am38t3DZiU0&sns=fb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Wooff Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) Perhaps one's perception of what is music is personal ? Edited February 4, 2016 by Geoff Wooff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Laban Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Perhaps one's perception of what music is is personal ? Hehe. To paraphrase one of the old guys : he played a lot of notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartEstell Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 And at great volume, from what I've heard. His playing isn't to my taste but it would be churlish to suggest that he's anything other than a very capable musician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Wooff Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 And at great volume, from what I've heard. His playing isn't to my taste but it would be churlish to suggest that he's anything other than a very capable musician. Oh, indeed so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) OK, I didn't like to say anything last night, but I guess you've all said it for me. I suppose there is a tune in there, somewhere... Sorry! Edited February 4, 2016 by Stephen Chambers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) Perhaps one's perception of what is music is personal ? Indeed. Seems I liked his playing better than some of you, though I also liked some parts less than others. I thought it got rather repetitious toward the end, while I do believe he was playing a tune at the beginning. As I once said to Stuart, I think he's done an excellent job of getting the result he wants, even if it doesn't "speak to" me. And for what it's worth, his technique and style remind me of some of Simon Thoumire's playing, though Simon plays an English and Mohsen is playing an anglo. I wonder if they know each other. But I do have criticisms regarding the "Young Traditional Musician" competition itself. I would hardly consider Mohsen's arrangement, style, and tunes(?) "traditional". I also wondered why Mohsen alone was named as the winner, when he was clearly playing with a band. Well, that was clarified when I sampled the YouTube videos of some of the other finalists. They were all playing with the same backup "band"! The Celtic harp and even the piano accordion were joined by those same bodhran, guitar, and grand piano... always playing essentially the same style. Is that the BBC's "traditional orchestra"? Leaves me wondering whether contestants were disqualified if they objected to that arrangement. Edited February 5, 2016 by JimLucas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Molkentin Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Simon Thoumire was what (who) immediately sprang to my mind too, Jim. However, Simon is balancing his rapid style with highly witty and inventive elements and modulations which simply puts him in a league by himself. With that said I too find parts of this player's playing more to my liking and parts less, as you've said. Best wishes - Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Wooff Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 As an example of the way I think it should be done take a look at this video: I'm no good a linking things so go to Youtube and search " Old master Padraic Keane with new guns" . This is the live TV broadcast of the winner of TG4's young musician of the year award 2011. Padraic is the grandson of our old friend(and concertina player) Tommy McCarthy and son of Jacqueline McCarthy and Tommy Keane. I am also involved as I made the instrument that Padraic plays in the first part of the video. The BBC are good at period dramas, perhaps they should stick to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Wooff Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) As an example of the way I think it should be done take a look at this video: I'm no good a linking things so go to Youtube and search " Old master Padraic Keane with new guns" . This is the live TV broadcast of the winner of TG4's young musician of the year award 2011... in Ireland. Padraic is the grandson of our old friend(and concertina player) Tommy McCarthy and son of Jacqueline McCarthy and Tommy Keane. I am also involved as I made the instrument that Padraic plays in the first part of the video. The BBC are good at period dramas, perhaps they should stick to that! I should add that the other players on the video are mum,dad and Padraic's sisters. in fact all of Tommy McCarthy's children play and are married to musicians and all the grandchildren are players too. What a fine tribute to a great musician. Edited February 4, 2016 by Geoff Wooff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Molkentin Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ALMwbUmUs4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Molkentin Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ALMwbUmUs4 Geoff, I agree that this is higly enjoyable and soulful music - and a lovely instrument too! Best wishes - Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Wooff Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Thanks Wolf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 As an example of the way I think it should be done take a look at this video: I'm no good a linking things so go to Youtube and search " Old master Padraic Keane with new guns" . This is the live TV broadcast of the winner of TG4's young musician of the year award 2011. Now THAT's lovely traditional playing - played with plenty of ornamentation but it's totally appropriate to the instrument and doesn't get in the way of the tune, in fact it lets it "sing out"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Wooff Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) As an example of the way I think it should be done take a look at this video: I'm no good a linking things so go to Youtube and search " Old master Padraic Keane with new guns" . This is the live TV broadcast of the winner of TG4's young musician of the year award 2011. Now THAT's lovely traditional playing - played with plenty of ornamentation but it's totally appropriate to the instrument and doesn't get in the way of the tune, in fact it lets it "sing out"... Perhaps this emphasises the difference between Culture and Mass Enteratinment.... Edited February 4, 2016 by Geoff Wooff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 As an example of the way I think it should be done take a look at this video: Old master Padraic Keane with new gun Now THAT's lovely traditional playing - played with plenty of ornamentation but it's totally appropriate to the instrument and doesn't get in the way of the tune, in fact it lets it "sing out"... Agreed, though it's not particularly Scottish. Did manage to sneak in a concertina, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Agreed, though it's not particularly Scottish. No, it's not Scottish music, though (from my experience anyway) there's an awful lot of Irish music played at sessions in Scotland. But I'm not aware of there being any tradition of playing the Anglo concertina in Scottish traditional music either - at least, all the old players that I'm aware of played English concertina. In fact the English concertina is probably more traditional in Irish music than the Anglo is in Scottish... Did manage to sneak in a concertina, though. That's Ken Loveless' old semi-miniature 24-key Wheatstone that he got made to take to sea with him in the Royal Navy - yes, a real sailor's concertina! It's one that I've tuned/serviced a good few times, especially for the ballet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jody Kruskal Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 especially for the ballet... For the ballet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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