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Newbie Afraid To Participate
Peter Laban replied to Randy Stein's topic in General Concertina Discussion
'Yes it is a crutch, but one that might help her "Get on her feet", after which it can be discarded. ' It can, perhaps, but I also know a lot of musicians who didn't or couldn't. From that point of view I would avoid the connection drink - music. A better solution may be, if you do want to play in public, to ease yourself into playing with others by sitting down with a person or persons you know well and are comfortable with and play, not necessarily in a public space, rather than to hop into a session. -
Newbie Afraid To Participate
Peter Laban replied to Randy Stein's topic in General Concertina Discussion
I am not sure that's good advice. But that's just me, probably. It's a crutch at best, and one that won't be any good in the long run. Some people like to 'perform', others not so much. Putting on the pressure to play 'out' on the more reluctant ones is just that, more pressure. Let them get there, or not, on their own terms, in their own time. -
Some years ago TG4 showed it a number of times. It was briefly on YouTube but was taken down quickly. I don't know if it's still online anywhere. There are trailers online, but not the whole thing, as far as I can see: I did download it at the time, the file is 250-ish Megabyte, as far as I remember. Hmm, let me think about that for a minute..
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In the documentary about Eithne's life, 'Idir Dhá Shaol’ , this song announces the story's final stages, the descent towards its conclusion. I can't hear it since without feeling that sense of foreboding and sadness.
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Mál Bhán Ni Chuilleanáin & Ronde de Loudeac.
Peter Laban replied to Ptarmigan's topic in Concertina Videos & Music
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Mál Bhán Ni Chuilleanáin & Ronde de Loudeac.
Peter Laban replied to Ptarmigan's topic in Concertina Videos & Music
Lovely job, Dick. Eithne's singing always gives me the shivers, such beauty. -
Looking for Ornamentation Resources
Peter Laban replied to cogito_ergo_erro's topic in Teaching and Learning
A translation of all text in CRE, by Paul de Grae, is online : here. Breathnach does not give ornamentation for the concertina so perhaps a different source would suit better. -
Just as a means to bump this thread to the top and for anybody into that sort of thing: I just got myself a copy, fresh off the press, of Helen O'Shea's excellent book on fiddle player Paddy Canny, 'No better boy'. Included in it are notations of the Cuckoo hornpipe from the playing of both Michael Coleman and Paddy Canny. Reading these side by side with the Droney version can give some insight in different styles and approaches among traditional musicians. If you're into that sort of thing, ofcourse.
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Having spent a bit more time with the book I must say I love it, a great contribution to the music of North Clare and a great tribute to Chris and his music. My inner pedant spotted some minor oversights in the notes to the tunes, all of them wood for the trees issues, insignificant so never mind those. There's one thing bugging me, though: the claim Séamus Ennis composed the Cuckoo hornpipe. This is easily laid to rest when welisten to Michael Coleman's recording of the tune, as Murray's fancy. It was made in the spring of 1921, when Ennis was barely two years old.
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The launch night in Ennis was very pleasant, lovely music by the Droneys, family and friends. Haven't had much time to look at the book in detail but first impression is a positive one. Kudos to all involved Three wise monkeys, Edgely, Branch, & Worrall: Brought back memories of the man himself: Inside Crotty's, Kilrush, with Mick Mulcahy. 1997
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Larry Kinsella - The Barley Grain
Peter Laban replied to Marcus's topic in Concertina Videos & Music
A quick follow up: I was in Custy's just now and noticed they have a bunch of copies of The Barley Grain available. -
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As per thread title, small write up and video of concertina maker Sean Garvey in today's paper: Sean Garvey in Irish Times: This is what I do And the accompanying video: Seán Garvey in Irish Times
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Carroll Concertina G/D - I love it
Peter Laban replied to Geraghty's topic in General Concertina Discussion
After seeing this thread I have noticed a fair few of them in the wild. I saw at least four or five around town yesterday. They seem to do the job anyway. -
Concertina Cruinniú 2023
Peter Laban replied to Peter Laban's topic in General Concertina Discussion
The Cruinniu kicked off just now with Liam O'Connor interviewing Noel Hill about the making of the recording 'The Irish Concertina', now 35 years ago. The event was filmed for ITMA.- 1 reply
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Cormac Begley's Bass concertina album
Peter Laban replied to Peter Laban's topic in General Concertina Discussion
Last night RTE aired a flim about the the dance show I mentioned above, Mám. It concentrates on the creative process and the dance, improvising and pulling everything together. With plenty of Cormac Begley. Great stuff, I thought: The Dance While at it, you may as well watch John Kelly interview Begley :The Works presents: Cormac Begley -
If you listen closely, you can even hear him, just about, shout it out to Eithne just before they go into it.
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No doubt about that but hearing the recording in the first post my immediate thought was that was a variant of Father O' Flynn/ToCr and that was all my post wanted to say. The same tune, landed in Ireland and adapted there for local use/circumstances. It is sometimes hard to see the relation between variants of the same melody. For example, I have been playing the jig Kit O'Mahony's for decades. KOM was Francis O Neill 's mother and he named the tune for her in his collection. I learned the jig initially from a recording by Tommy People's but it was one of Paddy Murphy's signature tunes. Some years ago I lifted Kit O Mahony's hornpipe off the recording by Paddy Murphy, Peter O Loughlin and Paddy Canny. Never gave it much further thought until I heard Tommy Keane play the hornpipe last week. I hadn't played it for a while but it kept playing in my head for days after hearing it again. Then finally a couple of days ago I had a light bulb moment and realised the jig and the hornpipe are actually the same tune, played as different forms. And I am left wondering why I didn't spot the obvious any sooner.
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Father O'Flynn/Top of Cork Road goes back to an English tune, Yorkshire Lasses that became the wellknown Irish jig. I have little doubt the OP's clip and the jig are versions of the same basic melody, that developed in different directions, suited to the use, time and place. David and I will have to agree to disagree on that one.
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The Top of Cork Road or Father O'Flynn in Ireland: T: Father O'Flynn R: jig M: 6/8 L: 1/8 K: Dmaj |:A|dAF DFA|ded cBA|dcd efg|fdf ecA| dAF DFA|ded cBA|dcd efg fdd d2:| |:g|fdf fga|ecA ABc|dcd Bed|cAA A2 c| BGB Bcd|AFD DFA|dcd efg|fdd d2:|
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The 11th Concertina Cruinniú will be held 10-12 February 2023 2023 Programme
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I donknow how it compares to the Clare but here's one
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First Concertina for Irish music
Peter Laban replied to Fiddling's topic in General Concertina Discussion
There's that, I have sat with a good few players who switched to C onm the fly to suit the flat pipes. But listen to players like Claire Keville, Dympna O Sullivan, Mary MacNamara etc who build sets of tunes going from D to C, G and F all the time, and to great effect. -
First Concertina for Irish music
Peter Laban replied to Fiddling's topic in General Concertina Discussion
I'd be wary of generalising. Irish music tends to be in D. Yes, except when it isn't. There's a reason why players of Irish music don't use the G/D, except for a limited number of tunes, perhaps. There are players who play 'on the rows' who prefer the (two row) D /A but their number is relatively limited too. That said, I played for years with a lovely 'on the rows' player who treated her 30 button instrument as a two row and I don't think she felt limited by it at any point. In fact she was always pining for a nice two row, if we could find her one. The two row C/G has its limitations but as an introduction, a starter instrument it's a great alternative to cheap 30 button accordion reeded instruments. But for the OP it may just be a little late to pick a nice one, if they want to find one before Christmas.