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    Folk Music, incl. Banjo, Whistle, Dulcimer, Singing, and Dance
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    Now in Wisconsin! formerly in Lancashire.

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  1. From your description, you have a C/g Anglo. Therefore you (probably) have a couple of options, if you are willing to cut from another note on the same side as that G under the left index finger in the C row: 1) The B 2nd from the top on the left in the G row 2) If you have a 26 - button or more instrument, then there likely is an A reversal on the push, on the left, 2nd from the top in the "Accidentals" row. Either of those require that the middle finger be available though, which will depend upon what note precedes the G you wish to cut toward. 3) Another option would be to play the G in the left-middle of the G-row, cutting down from either of the mentioned notes above, although this is easy cutting down from the B. This choice would depend upon what finger will be needed for the following note. A completely different approach would be to play the A on the draw with a little hiccup in the bellows motion, then keep the same button down to play the G on the push. This can also work if the preceding note was on the draw, and you just press the button with your index finger the tiniest bit early to get that hint of A before compressing the bellows to get the G. This will clearly NOT sound the same as cutting on the Flute, but that is the point. In certain places the rhythmic bounce produced can fit the music in a way unlike anything the Flute would produce, so it can be part of the peculiar charm of playing a bellows instrument.
  2. Playing the same melody along with the voice does risk muddling the sound a bit, making it more difficult for listeners to hear the words. Instead, I sometimes play through the melody just on the concertina for a verse and chorus, then sing unaccompanied on the verses and the first time through the chorus, then play along on subsequent choruses. (particularly in a situation where other people are joining in on the choruses, such as a shanty.) Then I perhaps play through the melody of the verse again with just the concertina somewhere in the middle, if the piece warrants it, and play verse and chorus again at the end. This is a good test of whether you can hold your pitch without dropping after singing a few verses! Not exactly what you were asking, and I play Anglo, not English, but hopefully useful. If you can play softly enough, then playing the melody while singing can work, but be sensitive that while you know the words, the listeners don't yet, so you need to sing out, and clearly. Even better if you can weave a counter-melody instead of playing the same main melody as your voice. Such a counter-melody can then be played along with the main melody for any instrumental bits too, if you are up to playing both together, but the combination will likely be too much to sing against. Sorry no specific examples to offer. Perhaps try playing the tenor lines in Christmas hymns while singing the melody to get an idea of the style?
  3. Does look like a Stagi bass, and in grave danger below the dart board, if the huge dart stuck in the table is representative. (Not to mention the axe stuck in the wall above it!) I agree people have been drunk here plenty of times, but pirates? I'm thinking hunters/fishermen, or possibly lumberjacks. I'm trying to reconcile the location - The skis suggest somewhere in the north, the higher mountainside seen through the window appears dusted with snow, but the trees are green and the water isn't frozen. Moose and fish trophies also look like from Northern USA or Canada, but could have been acquired there and brought in. The bird on the chair looks tropical, although could be a pet out of the cage. That spider is huge, so also tropical, and the bird is at risk! The plate of chicken and waffles on the table suggests southern USA, although I've not seen that served with just a large spoon before. Not even there.
  4. I don't play melodeon, or even have a G/d concertina, but it seems what you really want is something with fingering that is similar to both a D/G "English" melodeon , and a C#/D "Irish" Melodeon, so why not arrange the rows in a pattern to mimic these? If I understand the note positions of the two melodeons then what seems the closest match would be: The outer row where a concertina normally has accidentals, would be equivalent to the G row on a standard G/d concertina The middle row would be equivalent to the D row on a Baritone GD, so an octave lower than a standard G/d concertina (and a fourth lower than the G row, like a melodeon, instead of a fifth higher like a concertina) The inner row would be the C# row, set a half step lower than that baritone D row. It would likely need to be sized like a Baritone Anglo, since 2 of the 3 rows would be in the baritone range. I'm thinking of a 30 button box, so 3rd button start on each row and only 10 buttons per row, although you could add more. Perhaps this was one of your earlier iterations? My suggestion basically has the order of the rows the other way around from what you show. My suggestion would still not be at all familiar to Anglo concertina players, but the cross row technique between the middle and outer rows would be familiar to a D/G melodeon player, and cross row technique between the middle and inner rows would be familiar to a C#/D melodeon player. Such an instrument would still be difficult for anyone else to use if they play concertina, but perhaps melodeon players would take to it? Two difficulties I can see (besides the custom construction) would be that the outer row can be a bit hard to reach for some people, which is acceptable in an accidental row, but might be awkward for the G row. If that is a concern it will be true for SOME row no matter what button arrangement you choose. The other thing is the lateral offset from one row to the next on the right hand would be the other way from what you would find in the upper range of the melodeon keyboard. Easily overcome, but just a bit less familiar, in an instrument purpose built to be familiar to a melodeon player. I see that you have addressed this a little bit in the diagram above in the way the G and D rows are staggered, but I'm not quite following your logic on some of the buttons under the right hand index finger.
  5. For possible USA sources: Dana Johnson (in Maryland) who kindly replied above Greg Jowaisis (Kentucky) Bob Tedrow (Alabama) the Buttonbox (Sunderland Massachusetts, near Amherst) which likely is closest to you. All of them deal in new and/or used concertinas, and perform concertina repairs. Greg was able to source two original Jones reeds for me several years ago from his stock when I wanted a couple of notes swapped, but the instrument was already in his shop at the time, which allowed him to verify the fit. I appreciate that you likely are capable of some maintenance and repairs yourself, but you may find that taking your instrument to any of these for a bit of professional attention might help resolve whatever issues that troublesome reed is presenting, and possibly avoid the need for a replacement? Or at least allow for a confirmed fit of an available replacement reed if needed, and also provide a once-over look towards preventing any other future problems. Or if do you want to consider a second concertina again, with steel reeds for sessions/performance, I expect any of them would have available something to tempt you.
  6. Often new players want the straps tight to try to get a feeling of control, but that restricts movement and makes it hard to reach some of the buttons. I did it myself for a while. What seems to work better for me now is to make contact with the instrument in two places with each hand - the side of the thumb and the outer edge of my hand against the hand rest. I set my straps so I can arch my hand slightly, and create a slight tension in the strap against back of my hand. Most of the palm of my hand doesn't actually rest against the wooden rest. This way I can move the ends in and out without slop in the straps, yet a slight change in the arch of my hand creates enough slack to allow me to move to access any hard to reach buttons. There is a temptation to keep my hands very tense to keep the straps taught, but that is very tiring. By periodically concentrating on consciously relaxing, I've found after a while that I can reduce the tension in my hands dramatically and still maintain full control. But I still have to remind myself to relax. None of this came right away. I started out setting the straps very tight, and have only gradually worked to be come accustomed to the relaxed strap setting described above. There is a limit of course. When the straps are too loose to create any tension against the back of a fairly relaxed hand, then there is really no control at all! Edit: Some people also add some padding to the wooden rest to raise the hand slightly. I've not tried that but it makes sense. Also, I'm intrigued by the shaped hand rests offered by a few builders, such as the "ergonomic" hand rests offered as an option by Jake, of Wolverton Concertinas. I've not tried them, but one of my instruments has a slight relief to the edge of the hand rest where the side of my hand makes contact, and I do find that is more comfortable.
  7. Strongly recommend buying a copy of "The Concertina Maintenance Manual" by David Elliott. Excellent advice with description and photos, and it even seems to focus primarily on the English Concertina, just like what you now own. To answer your question on how to get to the reeds: You remove those 6 screws from one end, one in the middle of each edge, and gently lift off the wooden end. That exposes the action pan, with all the buttons and levers, and pads. This is then gently lifted out to get to the reed pan. Half of the reeds will then be visible, and you can gently pull out the reed pan to see the other half. There will be a hole in the reed pan to help in removing it. I emphatically suggest that you only remove one end at a time, and also be sure to put everything back carefully in the same orientation. Probably best not to leave the ends apart for an extended time either, or the reed pan or action pan can warp due to changes in humidity. There are others here who can tell you a lot more, including Mr. Elliott himself.
  8. I don't have this CD but I'm told he sings the new version on his 2004 CD "Ranter's Wharf" which also includes the title track. So not quite as recent as I had thought! His website indicates this can be purchased directly by contacting him, and he has at least two CDs since then. http://www.johnconolly.co.uk/merchandise.html
  9. To be fair, I got my spelling online too. "Connolly" was used as often as "Conolly" but the latter came from what appeared to be his own website. When we saw him perform a few years ago, he had recently written several new verses to "Fiddler's Green" but I don't have them.
  10. John's last name is spelt "Conolly" and he is indeed a fine fellow, as well as a fine musician/author/composer. Saw him perform maybe 5 or 6 years ago at Ellesmere Port, and also again in Edgworth.
  11. As other have pointed out there is the option to leave the field blank. It might be useful if the option to simply leave the field blank was somehow labelled so a new user would see that this is also an available option. Displaying the words "not telling" seems a stronger political statement than simply not providing the information; some people prefer to make that statement, while others may not want to imply such a statement, yet still prefer not to provide the information. A new user will of course be the least familiar with this forum, and could be put off. I just checked: For those already registered, it is easy to edit your profile to remove the gender selection so it is blank and doesn't show, if you prefer to do that. So if you didn't notice that leaving the blank choice was a valid option when you registered, you can update it now. No need to un-register. But to answer the original question: Why is declaring gender important? The one useful reason I can see is that the primary language used on this forum is English, which commonly uses gendered pronouns. Declaring gender allows members who haven't yet met to address each other respectfully with preferred pronouns, without making possibly embarrassing guesses based on names. I don't always think to look, but if I notice the gender of someone I wish to reply to, that helps me avoid affront or confusion. When addressing someone whose gender I don't know I try to remember to use neutral language, particularly if they have chosen "not telling" for this forum. (You may notice I just used a singular "they" to do so.) But non-gendered language in standard English can be awkward, so if male or female gender has been declared, I will use the standard matching pronoun where called for. I'm not at all likely to research the "about me" details of someone's profile for most replies however. Even so, I don't really think it would cause too much confusion if the gender field was just completely eliminated on the forum, as long as no one is offended when mistakes are made as result.
  12. Others will be better prepared to answer, since I don't play Melodeon, just tried it a bit from time to time, but those brief tries have provided some clues to the difficulty, just looking at it from the other direction. First of all, you are on the right track by admitting that the instruments are indeed different. The basic push/pull for the scale along each row works in the same familiar pattern (with possible variations on the lowest buttons) so that part should be familiar. The trick of crossing rows is really just to remember that it isn't a Melodeon, and training yourself on the new pattern. Crossing rows on the Anglo is certainly done, but it is not the same as on the Melodeon, because the relationship of the rows is different. On your DG Melodeon the G row is a fourth higher than the D row, while on a Cg Anglo the g row is a fifth higher than the C row. So as a result, the patterns for crossing rows are quite different, and the tunes you now play cross rows will have to be played in a different pattern on the Anglo. Even if your Anglo is a Gd which seems as though it would be similar, this time the d row is a fifth higher than the G row instead of the G being the higher row by a fourth on the Melodeon, so the relationship is still different. There are several answers on what to do with your left hand. 1) Part of what the left hand does is continue the melody, for notes that are lower than those provided on the right hand. After all, on your Melodeon there will have been 10 buttons on each row, or thereabouts, and the right hand on the Anglo only has 5 buttons on each row. These are likely equivalent to the top five buttons or so on the Melodeon, depending upon if yours is a 3 or 4 start. So the lower part of the scale continues on the left hand, and will be needed for many tunes. But there is more to it than just playing the lower notes along the rows. Because of the two rows are different by a fifth on the Anglo, most of the two home scales can be played with just the first two fingers on each hand, by crossing rows, so this will often be part of what the left hand is doing. 2) But what about chords? Well, the Melodeon provides the main chords more easily, since they can be a single button. With the Anglo, you have to build chords up with several buttons. But in the home keys, the buttons required are generally available in the same push pull direction as the melody notes which require those chords. For example, on a Cg Anglo the F# is only available on the pull, but the most likely chord to play during that melody note would be a D major, and the required D, F#, and A for that are all available on the pull. C, and G chords are largely available in either push or pull, although not in every inversion. The F note is generally only on the pull again, but the A, F, and some version of the C for the F chord are also available. Finding all the notes in the desired chord gets trickier farther off the home keys, or when playing against a passing note in the melody, but most likely you won't want to play all three notes on the chord very often anyway. I expect the same push/pull conflict between the available chords and passing notes happens with the Melodeon too? At least with the Anglo you can likely find at least ONE note from the desired chord which will be in the same direction as the melody note, and perhaps two. 3) That chord option can be broken up into an alternating bass line, playing a low note, perhaps the root of the chord, followed by perhaps the fifth of the chord, then the low note again, and the third of the chord, or a similar pattern, iin a classic "Oom Pah" style. Perhaps playing the root on the "Oom", followed by the third and fifth together on the "Pah". You will want to play different inversions of the chords for variation, but also because there may not always be room below the melody line for the 1st position of the chord. Generally it is best to keep these harmony notes short, not drawn out. 3) Another option for harmony is to play the melody note, and then another note in the same row, a bit lower as a harmony line. (occasionally, crossing rows for that harmony note) This could mean playing the same melody an octave lower, or it could mean playing a harmony line made up of fifths, fourths, and thirds below the melody line. I happen to prefer this style, and it is fairly easy when playing along the rows, but can appropriate notes can also be worked out when crossing rows on the melody line, it just takes more planning. When playing a harmony line or chords, this may influence your choice of when to cross rows on the melody line, in order to make your desired harmony line or chords available. At times that will be countered by the practice of avoiding playing consecutive notes on different buttons with the same finger. So it does get complicated. Then there are the accidentals and reversals available on the outer row. Of course the accidentals make more melody notes available, and the extra reversals can allow for a smoother melody line. But the reversals also can open up more possibilities for what harmony notes are possible for a given melody line. That is a lot from someone who says up front that he doesn't know what he is talking about, but I hope it helps!
  13. That looks like a Chemnitzer concertina, which originated in Germany (hence the name) but is commonly used here in the US Midwest for Polka music. There are a few people on this website with experience with these instruments and I hope they can help you more than I can, but more people here concentrate on the smaller English, Anglo, and Duet style concertinas. You might have more luck with the US Concertina Association, or links found at https://concertinamusic.com/ I found a link to a FAQ page put together by Ted Kloba, with information which looks like it could be useful to you, although it hasn't been updated recently. https://ciceroconcertina.weebly.com/chemnitzer-faq.html
  14. On that last point of finding the key of a tune - I also find it difficult to pick up what key a tune is played in during a session. Nearly impossible when away from my instrument, but when actually there with my instrument there are some tricks that help. First of all, you mention ITM and the Keys of G or C, but I've found that D is even more common than C, and A is also possible. I'm sensitive to that fact because one of my concertinas is a 20 button Anglo in Cg, so it doesn't have that critical C# note for tunes in D. If you are lucky, people will mention the key before they start, but in reality that doesn't seem to happen much, or if they do you can't hear them - often not even possible to hear the name of the tune if mentioned. If you are starting off on harmonies, there is a method to the "discretely guessing and quietly noodling." Try lightly/briefly playing your best guess at the root notes of the chords, rather than the full chords. That won't cause as much interruption as a full chord if your guess is off, but it allows you to hear your instrument against what others are playing, so you can calibrate where you should be. Once you have found the key, you may still miss where the chords change, but this also offers some forgiveness within the I, IV, and V chords, since your intended root note may still fit in as the 5th of the real chord. Once you have found the key, and starting to find the chord changes, and start filling in the chords a bit; the layout of the Anglo helps with this, in the home keys. It usually isn't necessary or even desirable to play the full chord, two notes of a chord are often plenty, and that is less likely to step on what anyone else is doing. Paying attention to the rhythm, playing two or three note arpeggios, instead of two notes simultaneously can work well, and you will likely happen upon bits of the melody that way. Changing between playing root and 5th then sometimes root and 3rd also provides some variation, particularly in passages where the chord doesn't change quickly. The aim is to play your harmony notes briefly and quietly, while somehow not playing them tentatively, which is mostly a matter of timing. One trick often mentioned is to watch the guitar player, to see what chord shapes they are using. Of course that means you have to know at least some basic chord shapes for guitar, and you also need to know if they are in standard EADGBE tuning, or something else like DADGAD, and also note whether they are using a capo. If there is more than one guitar player, they may tune and capo differently in order to avoid duplicating the same part. Personally I don't play guitar, and I've had little success finding the key by watching for guitar chords, but I do find it useful to watch when the guitar player changes chord shape as a hint for the timing of chord changes, even if I can't really see which the new chord might be. If there is a whistle player playing a D whistle, I can sometimes tell whether a tune is in D or G by watching for a the distinctive fully open C# vs several mid holes closed on the C natural. I also can often get the key by watching which notes dominate, particularly at the end of the phrase. Even the melody notes are fairly easy to see on the whistle, since the fingering of the notes is mostly linear with the scale. But whistle players are prone to ornamentations, so that can obscure things a bit, and some will bring a quiver of whistles in different keys. Note that in ITM sessions often the melody instruments are playing largely in unison, although playing different ornamentations, and perhaps playing different variations across each other, rather than anyone playing full harmony lines. Quite different in that way from Old-time sessions, where tunes are played through many times, with musicians trading harmonies. It is generally still OK to start by picking out chords and harmonies in an ITM session, but be sensitive to the particular session you are in. All that said, picking up a tune in a session is still a struggle, and I haven't even been to a session lately, so you are quite possibly already doing better than I am!
  15. I listened to the recording last night, and it sounded good. The playing has a few hesitations, but overall very nice and clear. The recording sounds as if resonating in a large empty room, which gives it a far away feeling, quite appropriate for this particular tune, although perhaps it might muddle other more bouncy tunes such as a fast jig. The notation didn't appear to be correct. The note pitches and the lengths were all just fine, but the bar lines were off by one crotchet. (1/4 note) This tune ought to start with a pickup prior to the first full bar, so the first two quavers (1/8 notes) would be before the bar, with the downbeat of the full measure on the next note, and everything else shifts forward one 1/4 note to match. I can't seem to open the .pdf today though, and see that your post was recently edited, so I don't know if that file has since been changed.
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