michael sam wild Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I've been listening to Steve Turner's latest CD and he plays a bass baritone EC which he prefers to sing to than treble . How common are such lower tunings say in C/G but as Anglos? Or is it a matter of going down to the dusty end on the Left hand side? I find singing to my G/D Anglo more pleasing than a treble C/G How low can you go before you lose a clean tone? I assume salvation Army anglos were used to accompany hymns - what are their common keys? On melodeon I prefer to sing to a B flat/E flat Hohner, maybe that's the amswer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_Coles Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I have a baritone C/G anglo. It dates from the time when Harry Geuns and Wim Wakker were building them in collaboration, with accordion reeds. It is a nice instrument. It really demands a different playing style (to my ear) than just doing your C/G arrangements an octave down. I haven't worked up a lot of those so far. IIRC you can get baritone anglos from Tedrow and Morse by special order, and maybe other makers too. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Timson Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 They're something special for song accompaniment. Here's mine. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 They're something special for song accompaniment. Here's mine. Chris WOW! an absolutely gorgeous looking instrument Chris! What I need to know now is ...... were, on the net, can we hear it? Cheers Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael sam wild Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 Yeah! can you put a few tunes or songs on please! Can someone else come on and explain the technical side of things . I'm gagging to hear it. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjcjones Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I have a Lachenal baritone in F/C. Actually, I've been told off on here for calling it that, because it's not strictly a baritone as there is no corresponding treble version an octave higher. But it's of baritone size and construction, with some huge reeds, and sounds quite different from my G/D treble although it's only a tone lower in pitch. As Chris says, they're great for song accompaniment. It does demand a slightly different playing style, I find I have to play a bit more "oom-pah" than I normally do, to get those big low reeds kick-started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 As Chris says, they're great for song accompaniment. It does demand a slightly different playing style, I find I have to play a bit more "oom-pah" than I normally do, to get those big low reeds kick-started. Hmmmm does an EC Baritone require a similar approach, I wonder? Cheers Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Stout Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Hmmmm does an EC Baritone require a similar approach, I wonder? Cheers Dick My German silver reeded baritone EC (a very early one) is only a tiny bit slower to respond than its treble brass reeded cousin from the same era. I haven't felt any need to change my technique when playing it. I don't do much oompah playing. My baritone is in Youngs #2 temperament. It is a lovely mellow instrument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Hmmmm does an EC Baritone require a similar approach, I wonder? Cheers Dick My German silver reeded baritone EC (a very early one) is only a tiny bit slower to respond than its treble brass reeded cousin from the same era. I haven't felt any need to change my technique when playing it. I don't do much oompah playing. My baritone is in Youngs #2 temperament. It is a lovely mellow instrument. Och Larry it sounds great, any chance we might hear it on MP3 or YouTube? A photo would be nice, too. Cheers Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takayuki YAGI Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 IIRC you can get baritone anglos from Tedrow and Morse by special order, and maybe other makers too. Also Frank Edgley would make. http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5955 My friend in Japan placed an order last year and will have one soon. -- Taka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael sam wild Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 Thanks for that link to 2007 thread . Very helpful. I'm tempted! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Timson Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Yeah! can you put a few tunes or songs on please I'll sort something out this weekend. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Thanks for that link to 2007 thread . Very helpful. I'm tempted!Mike I'm also tempted, being mainly a singer; but first I need to learn how to play my treble, not to mention raising some serious moolah. Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael sam wild Posted January 6, 2009 Author Share Posted January 6, 2009 I have been playing tunes quite a bit on the LHSide getting down to the dusty buttons of low CGAB. I'm wondering whether to replace some duplicates with a D,E, F and Fsharp. What do people think? Is it worth it? It feels like using the Anglo like a duet I've got a Lachenal Maccann duet but someone said the Jeffries duet system is more suited for Anglo players, any comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken_Coles Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 IIRC you can get baritone anglos from Tedrow and Morse by special order, and maybe other makers too. Also Frank Edgley would make. http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=5955 My friend in Japan placed an order last year and will have one soon. -- Taka Yes, thank you, I had forgotten about that thread. Add Frank to the list! Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Peters Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Ian Munro (Kilmarnock) had a lovely Lachenal baritone for sale not so long ago (I'd have nabbed it myself if cashflow had allowed). Peter Trimming might know more. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterT Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Ian Munro (Kilmarnock) had a lovely Lachenal baritone for sale not so long ago (I'd have nabbed it myself if cashflow had allowed). Peter Trimming might know more.Brian Hi Brian, Yes; I know a bit more (like you have first refusal!). I don't know whether Ian is offering this instrument for sale, but it's certainly not being played very much (Ian has been in poor health for a while, but manages to send me some jokes, most weeks). I got to play this instrument in March 2007; the first time I had seen it since moving from 30 to 32 keys (work carried out by Colin Dipper). It's a Baritone, tuned C/G, so an octave below the normal C/G tuning. Years ago, when Ian first had this instrument, I took great delight in playing it, while Ian played his normal C/G Anglo. We never practised anything, since we only got together at WCCP events, plus a couple of other occasions. Is it for sale? Well I don't really know. Ian is on this Forum (squeezeesy), so can be messaged by anyone with a serious interest. Alternatively, contact myself and I can mail him. Remember, it's a Baritone not a Ferrari, but it plays well and has a lovely, mellow, tone. If I could have justified the purchase by sufficient use, it would not have left my house! Regards, Peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshall Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 I have a Lachenal baritone in F/C. Actually, I've been told off on here for calling it that, because it's not strictly a baritone as there is no corresponding treble version an octave higher. But it's of baritone size and construction, with some huge reeds, and sounds quite different from my G/D treble although it's only a tone lower in pitch. As Chris says, they're great for song accompaniment. It does demand a slightly different playing style, I find I have to play a bit more "oom-pah" than I normally do, to get those big low reeds kick-started. I too have an F/C "baritone", but made by Wheatstone. It was previously owned by Steve Harrison. This also has some large reeds which sound very different from a Wheatstone G/D - much more mellow and rounded which give the impression of more than just the one tone difference in pitch. Chas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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