John Sylte Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Same notes push and pull I presume? http://cgi.ebay.com/Very-Rare-Lachenal-Jed...1QQcmdZViewItem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Same notes push and pull I presume? That's right. Various German and English makers built "chromatic system" piano-fingered concertinas over the years. The model was patented, in London, in 1862 (July 9.-No.1976) by Charles Frederick William Rust, acting for the German manufacturer Ferdinand Glier. They were later made by both George Jones and Lachenal & Co. (I even saw a Wheatstone Æola version once !), but the system has always been flawed, as it is not possible for anyone to play with their thumbs on a concertina, making the instrument pretty useless to a keyboard player, for whom it was supposedly intended. The Jedcertina was a late version of the design, made by Lachenal's (& later by Harry Crabb), for J.E.Dallas & Son of London, who used the brand name "Jedson". This one appears to have the Erinoid (plastic) buttons that Lachenal's started to use in the late 1920s. A forum search on "Jedcertina" will lead you to various older threads about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Sylte Posted October 27, 2006 Author Share Posted October 27, 2006 I searched for "Jedcertina" on here before I posted and only got two of the 15 or so hits that your link took me to. Not sure how my search was different than yours, it was obviously not the same though. Had I known it had been previously discussed at such length, I wouldn't have brought it to everyone's attention! Thanks Stephen- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 (edited) I searched for "Jedcertina" on here before I posted and only got two of the 15 or so hits that your link took me to. Not sure how my search was different than yours, it was obviously not the same though. Had I known it had been previously discussed at such length, I wouldn't have brought it to everyone's attention! Thanks Stephen- John There are two ways to search, each producing different results. I've use them both and can't tell which one is better. The first is on the top line next to help. It opens a new page with options. The second is below the banner add with go next to it. I think one is a quick search with only the topics that contain the search term and the other is the individual posts listed. Thanks Leo Edited October 27, 2006 by Leo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Rosser Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 The instrument as shown on ebay has only two rows (1 Octave) per side but I know that Mike Acott has one which has four rows (2 Octaves) per side. He recently took it to Whitney and a keyboard player picked it up and began playing with absolutely no difficulty - despite not being able to use his thumbs! As I'd never come across one before I would be interested to know its likely value? Any guesses from the boxers out there? Simon Rosser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeezed Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 LOOKS LIKE IT'S BACK AGAIN: EBAY: RARE LACHENAL JEDCERTINA 21 BUTTON CONCERTINA Item number: 320326815863 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Yes, it's HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Hersh Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 How do we know that it's the same one? Yes, it's HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marien Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 The instrument as shown on ebay has only two rows (1 Octave) per side but I know that Mike Acott has one which has four rows (2 Octaves) per side. He recently took it to Whitney and a keyboard player picked it up and began playing with absolutely no difficulty - despite not being able to use his thumbs! As I'd never come across one before I would be interested to know its likely value? Any guesses from the boxers out there? Simon Rosser If there is only one row of white buttons on each side, the general opinion is that it scores low on playability. With one extra octave on each side the playability may be higher, and it will attract more players, hence competing bidders. What to say about a price gamble, I would say the average value would be less than for an english concertina of the same quality (but who can tell what the quality of this specific concertina on ebay is?) Marien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindizzy Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Is THIS another on?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dunk Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 I reckon so, spotted it yesterday and didn't even bother putting it on my 'watching' list. Looks tidy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marien Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Who am I if THIS is a jedcertina? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindizzy Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Who am I if THIS is a jedcertina? "old Lachenal Jedcertina accordion concertina " I suppose 3 out of 5 correct is a pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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