David Barnert

Nonsense. FWIW, I can't "get on" with the English system either, but have been happily and successfully playing the Hayden duet system for 20 years. The only problem with duets is availability. Nobody makes Maccanns or Cranes (Triumphs) anymore (although decent ones become available from time to time) and with Haydens you either have to go for a poorly made Stagi (the only folks reliably and continuously producing any kind of duet concertina) or wait long and indefinite periods of time for a quality instrument maker to produce one for you.

Nice job, Alan. Here's a link that you don't have to copy and paste. Takes you right to the tutor files. http://www.etanbenami.com/Anglo%20Concertina%20Tutor/

I hate to be a spoiler here, but G/A is not part of a triad.

Feeling somewhat responsible (for my hand in posting the link) I had a look. All I can say is that they've got a toll-free telephone number (888-473-5810 from the USA only) so I would think the first step would be to call them and let them sort it out.

Here, I've made a clickable link out of it: http://www.elderly.com/events/2007/event_page?eid=557

I sent my registration in the other day and indicated I wanted the lunch as well, so if nobody else goes for it, at least we'll each have company. As I remember, the form had no obvious way to indicate that you wanted lunch. If you send a check it would be obvious from the total, but if you enter a credit card number there's no way for the BB to know how much to charge your card unless you scribble it into the margin.

Ride offered from Albany NY or Berkshires, etc., leaving Albany after work (whatever that means).

I also agree with the above, and had thought it through even before I read past your title. Try playing the root and 5th in the lower octave and the 3rd in a higher octave.

It appears you have inadvertently edited out the "slash-quote" tag at the end of the quote (and I'm using "code" here rather than "quote" to avoid confusing the interface): [quote name='tblay' date='Feb 16 2007, 08:31 AM' post='51434'] I recently heard a radio programme about the Album Smile and the previous album Smiley Smile and reference was made to the use of a concertina on the track "Fall Breaks And Back To Winter (W, Woodpecker Symphony)" . Howdy (again): ...

The ".fi" in the domain name suggests that the page is housed in Finland and words like "hilkka" in the URL seem to support that. I agree, though, that the text on the page looks a little more romantic than Finnish. Just for fun, I went to google language tools to see what would happen if I tried translating the page from Portuguese to English. Many words translated, but less than half.

Sorry for not responding sooner. I've been off concertina.net for a couple weeks. I take it you've not seen this picture: It's me playing the MIDI Hayden mockup referred to in the post that started this thread. See also the 2nd post. Paul Everett, who built it, is on the right. If the furniture looks familiar it's because it's in the parlor of Bucksteep Manor at the 2001 NE Squeeze-In (before you started going, Mike). Is this not exactly what you had in mind?

You'd have to get into the action box, which involves finding a small screw and removing it (after removing the end as you already have done). But you might be able to answer the question by looking through the fretwork, perhaps with a flashlight.

Maybe, maybe not, but he is a member of concertina.net. Here's his post (from yesterday) in another thread on this same topic.

I guess I didn't see this question back in October. I don't sail much anymore, but I was an avid small boat day sailor in my youth and spent the summer of 1973 teaching sailing at a summer camp on Cape Cod. Long before I ever dreamed I'd play concertina, though. Edited for typo.

Robin, my avatar is sitting and my avatar is on the side of the Canadian Houses of Parliment but (at least as I see it) that doesn't mean it is clear just what my avatar is sitting on.

I bet when you first planned a concertina event in Palestine nobody ever guessed that there was a song rhyming the two words.

Why not? Edited to add: See my avatar. Maybe that's what he's doing...

That would be stage left, our right, right? The other one, to our left of the melodeon player (who sits between the two concertina players), is only seen briefly, toward the end.

Becky, you're the only female concertina player I know west of the Mississippi. I don't know who the 'tina players are in the video, but the caller/fiddler is Dave Kaynor from western Massachesetts.

Interesting song, Julian. Who's Tim? When I first saw this thread, I was going to let it pass because it's not a problem I've ever encountered before and don't really have a specific answer. But as I've been dragged into the discussion (thank you, Wendy ), I'll see what I can contribute. Except for this sentence, I wrote all this off-line, before seeing Randall's answer, which is probably just as good as mine (but shorter). First of all, the abc music notation protocol is not a professional-quality music typesetting system and was not originally designed to handle songs. It was envisioned as a quick and easy way to jot down 32-bar fiddle tunes. Capability for multiple voices (V:) and words aligned with the notes (w:) were added later by software developers and have become pretty well standard. Ability to handle files that take more than one page to print is not nearly as standard, and some software handles it better than others. I took your abc code and ran it through my abc software (BarFly for Macintosh). BarFly was unable to render it as a musical score until I removed the V: lines in your header and fixed a format error in your code (see below). Then it printed with a similar problem to what you already had except that the missing material at the top of each page appears at the bottom of the preceding page. It played the song normally. julian_song2.pdf From BarFly I exported it to abcm2ps and macps2pdf and made the attached pdf, which does not have the problem your pdf does, but has another problem stemming from a nonstandard construction in your code (a quarter-note rest should be z2, not Z2, which abcm2ps interpreted as |--2--| near the end). Julian_song3.pdf So, my answer is that when trying things that weren't part of the original concept of abc, sometimes you find software that produces unexpected output. You have several choices as to how to proceed. One is to find software that does what you want (as I did). Another is to find a way to tweak your code so that the present software produces the desired output. That's what Wendy was getting at when she said I have never used forced line breaks and don't have a good sense of how they work. FWIW, here's what I have been able to find about how ABC2WIN (the software that drives the tune-o-tron converter) handles forced line breaks:Line breaks in the text are ignored unless preceded by an exclamation mark, and you can also place exclamation marks in the middle of a line to force a staff break at that point. I would go about it a little differently, perhaps adding a line of blank words, that is, a line consisting only of "W:" where the page breaks, to see if that forces the stuff on page 2 down far enough to include what got lost on top. Finally, if your aim here is simply to produce a decent pdf of the song, here it is. BarFly -> abcm2ps -> macps2pdf with two changes to your code: I replaced "Z2" with "z2" and I added a W: after the music, before the words, because a blank line in abc code signals the end of a file, so the words at the bottom were otherwise ignored. julian_song4.pdf I hope this answers your question. Wendy, I'll talk to you later...

Anyway, here's the link (posted from a Macintosh!): http://www.bandoneon-maker.com/footbass_1.htm Wendy, I may not have time to come up with a complete answer to the abc question in the other thread this morning, but I'll get to it.

From personal experience (was yours?): Take it apart for repair outdoors on a picnic table with wide spaces between the beams over a grassy surface.

We've talked about this before, but I can't find the thread right now. Paul Everett (who built it) often reads this list. Those are my fingers playing the thing in the first picture.

Aha! Now I see why my searcdhes failed. The Dawson video postings have RobertDawson as one word. And, of course, as soon as I saw the thumbnail listings, I realized I had seen the videos a few weeks ago. Thanks for the help. Edited to remove suggestion to actually search on "RobertDawson." This only brings up one video, on an unrelated topic.

Thanks for the tip, Al, but I can't find them. Danny, Simon, and Niall's videos I've already seen, but I've typed: "Robert Dawson" concertina "Robert Dawson" Robert Dawson concertina Robert Dawson duet into the search engine at youtube and got no hits. When I typed Robert Dawson [no quotes] I got lots of hits, but nothing relevant, mostly readings of Robert W. Service poems. Any idea what I should be searching for?