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  1. Can you cross the border now? I thought it was closed due to Covid until at least the end of Oct.
  2. My Dipper spent 2 days or so in Memphis, Tennessee where it was fully opened and inspected. That was 2017. The box had been re-taped and the concertina I, assume had been taken out of its case. In this situation they seem to have been very careful as only one reed was dislodged and that could have happened anywhere along the line. But International shipping of things that show up as odd in the xray are likely to be handled and visually inspected. That reed, still in it's shoe was rattling around, but went in nicely after I opened her up.
  3. I especially like that the lessons give you the tools and techniques you need to pick up tunes on your own by ear down the road. Each lesson builds systematically and seldom assumes you know something they haven't taught you yet. Starting with the melody line only they introduce you to ornaments and chords fairly early on. I am an ear player who uses music for reference with decades of being a pretty good flute and whistle player, and decades of being a stay at home fiddle player, both in ITM. I'd recommend their classes for anyone who doesn't have an expert down the road. The call and response technique of copying a phrase a teacher plays for you is great for training your ear. And the lessons also provide sheet music if that is how you roll, as well as mp3s of the tune played through at a slow and slightly faster speed so you can play along. The diagrams were useful to me. But you don't have to use them if they don't work for you. Seeing the ango keyboard in your mind's eye and finding it in your hands is important. Edel's lessons may have started on the Wheatstone layout. I don't remember. But they seldom do go up to the right hand accidentals in the beginning lessons. So the only difference there is: is the C# or the push or the pull. The videos are presenting the same notes in enough ways you can find the method you wish to focus on within each lesson.
  4. I think you really have to listen to something like this on a great set of headphones or a good speaker. Our laptops won't do it justice.
  5. I'm assuming you are not pricing this because you are unsure what the price should be. That is not uncommon for older instruments in various states of repair. Information which might help you with your sale: Is there any air leaking in the bellows anywhere? Do all the reeds sound on both the pull and the pull? Do any buttons stick? Are there any smells? It appears that part of one of the handrails is cracked off. Is that the case.? Does the leather on the broken strap seem supple or dry? And someone is going to ask you to take the ends off so they can see the reeds and internal mechanisms. This may seem scary. If you do that I recommend that you put the instrument down on something like a terry cloth towel so the screws won't roll of the table on to wherever, never to be seen again. Stick them in a jar or dish, even if you're just going to leave it taken apart for "just a minute." It is amazing how loose screws seem to evaporate or fly away on their own. If you use a screwdriver with a blade that fits the screw slot exactly and has comfortable handle you will have less of a chance slipping and damaging the wood or bunging up the screw. I usually hold two fingers close to the screw, one on other side of the screw I'm going to remove and turn the screw out using my fingers to protect the wood. I'm a bit over careful. But despite decades of working with tools and wood, I find taking apart a concertina is still a bit intimidating. Also the country you are located in might be useful. Good Luck
  6. Trinity College concertinas have not always gotten good reviews. You'd have to know your seller. I'd avoid Amazon for example, they don't have any experts going over their instruments, they just sell boxes from the factories. The Rochelles, while bigger are still pretty light. They are decent starter instruments. And if you buy from the Conncertina Connection or the Button Box will have been gone over before they are sold. That line also has an English line as well. I believe its called the Jackie. I had a Stagi for a while that was quite nice, but they vary as well. I just got lucky. If someone offers you a used one make sure you can play it in person. I'd avoid the 20 button anglo because you will be missing some accidentals, mostly a C#.which is a pretty important note, as well as Db and Bb. You'll grow out of it pretty fast unless you happen to use it for singing and the keys fit your voice. The english system doesn't lend itself to the detailed ornamentation that makes Irish music sound Irish, but lots of people don't really care. If you were getting heavily into Irish Trad it may be a big issue, but if you aren't it won't really be a big deal.
  7. Do you know what kind of music you are interested in? If it is Irish Traditional Music, the best type to start with is a C/G anglo. There are other types of concertinas that are good for other types of music, but the standard and easiest for Irish Trad stuff is the C/G anglo. Good luck.
  8. If the deployment is to someplace warm some or any place where the temperature can't be monitored inexpensive concertinas have reeds set in wax. You will want to avoid them. Ask your seller. Even if the rochelle seems large to most people it also feels sturdy and has some plastic type material that replaces the leathers inside. This could be a benefit if the temperature conditions cannot be controlled. I don't think a rochelle is likely to be a lifetime instrument for most people, but it is a good learning instrument and comparatively inexpensive. The world of concertinas is complicated by the fact that there are so many moving parts and a finite number of people who want to play them. So they are complicated to build and the economy of scale doesn't come very much into play. Getting a hard case for the Rochelle may be tricky since they are a little larger than some. Perhaps that would be a good question to ask your seller. Good luck.
  9. If you are not sure about the concertina, I'd second the rental recommendation. The Button Box will send you an instrument in good shape, and you'll have a change to figure out if you like the ergonomics of playing. You'll gradually find you'll like a nicer sound than the cheapest models, but you'll basically be buying time. A lot of what you do in the beginning is finding your notes and learning the keyboard.
  10. Ha, yes a harmonica for sure. But to the common man a reed is a reed. HaHa. The visuals are concertina like. BTW I was listing to this a a fairly decent volume and my dog left the room at the harmonica. She howls with concertinas.
  11. Thanks, This is so interesting, all three of the references... Thanks!
  12. This may be wrong. As it may have been another maker, but it doesn't hurt of ask...
  13. I think a person I used to play with had a Carroll baritone. I am completely out of touch with them and no longer have contact info, but I think I am remembering this correctly.
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