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#1 Chris Drinkwater

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Posted 12 September 2015 - 05:52 PM

Gardiner - Houlgate are holding a two day sale of musical instruments, starting on September 17th. There are five concertinas amongst the lots, 2 English and 3 anglos, including a C Jeffries anglo. The lot numbers are from 654 to 658. See the link below:

 

http://www.the-saler...10092015&page=8

 

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Posted 13 September 2015 - 01:08 AM

Interesting that the Wheatstone English , in the sale, No 19017 is noted in the ledgers as being "single action" . So, it only has reeds for one direction, press. It looks to be a standard size 6 1/4" Hexagon..... so, why would it be single action ? Special large reeds, a Baritone in smaller size ?

Any thoughts ?

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Edited by Geoff Wooff, 13 September 2015 - 01:09 AM.


#3 Geoffrey Crabb

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Posted 13 September 2015 - 11:08 AM

Interesting that the Wheatstone English , in the sale, No 19017 is noted in the ledgers as being "single action" . So, it only has reeds for one direction, press. It looks to be a standard size 6 1/4" Hexagon..... so, why would it be single action ? Special large reeds, a Baritone in smaller size ?

Any thoughts ?

Geoff.

 

Geoff

 

In the ledger, Baritones and Basses are definitely indicated so this one is probably a Treble. Single action instruments were usually made for ensemble work so this may have been required as a 'second' Treble to support a lead Treble. While single action instruments could be initially cheaper (one set of reeds and possibly no reed pan) I suspect this possibly was not the case due to the inclusion of gilt fittings. I would have expected to see hand cut fretwork on this instrument instead of the machine (routed) version.

 

Lot 655. Probably a Shakespeare, the fretwork is the same, complete with the inclusion of birds, as found on other Shakespeare labelled instruments. Although usually plain, on this one the ends are, rather nicely, engraved.

 

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 09:11 AM

Lot 655 (shakespeare?) sold for £2600.

 

Lot 656 Jeffries sold for £3200.

 

Plus 24% buyers premium inc. vat.

 

The shakespeare needed a big restoration. (IMO).

The jeffries was in reasonable condition. (IMO)

 

Lot 657   Wheatstone no. 19017 sold for £600.


Edited by vdvzak, 21 September 2015 - 09:29 AM.


#5 Chris Timson

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 10:16 AM

I've been to Gardiner - Houlgate sales, they're only about 20 minutes drive from me. They frequently have concertinas up for auction but you'll never get a bargain there. The Usual Suspects bid in the auctions by phone or via the auctioneer and they have a very, very good idea of the value of what they're buying.

 

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#6 Bill N

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Posted 21 September 2015 - 10:59 AM

Sometimes if the "usual suspects" are dealers looking for inventory it can work to one's advantage.  Since they are looking for a "wholesale" price that they can add a markup to, it can be a good strategy to wait until the dealers in the room stop bidding, then bid just a little bit higher.  Not a good strategy with collectors in the room, or unidentified phone bids however.



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Posted 21 September 2015 - 02:43 PM

...if almost 4000 Pound for an unrestored Jeffries can be regarded as "wholesale"!



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Posted 21 September 2015 - 02:53 PM

...if almost 4000 Pound for an unrestored Jeffries can be regarded as "wholesale"!

 

Maybe that one wasn't bought by a dealer?



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Posted 21 September 2015 - 05:28 PM

 

...if almost 4000 Pound for an unrestored Jeffries can be regarded as "wholesale"!

 

Maybe that one wasn't bought by a dealer?

 

Maybe it wasn't unrestored.http://www.concertin...showtopic=17995







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