Ptarmigan Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Less than 24 hours to go.... please have a look .... we really want our 'tina to go to a good home... £4,141.00 Congratulations Keith. Seems like a very good price for a quality instrument. I trust you are satisfied with the highest bid? Just spoken to the gentleman who's bought it - seems like a really lovely fella - who's massively into his 'tinas - been building a collection for nearly 40 years ..... Lucky Man! Hmmmmmmmm I know it now belongs to him & I suppose he can do what he wants with it, but I certainly hope he is going to play it & not just stick it in a glass case? Cheers Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy M. Grossman Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Those big jumps are because when you bid on eBay the system only puts in the minimum amount necessary to beat the existing bids. If a bidder has a limit that's a lot higher than is currently showing, when a new bidder comes in with a higher bid the system jumps to whatever's necessary. In this auction - as in many - the significant action happened in the last five minutes. I owned a concertina of the same specification but with ebony ends - that's the one I had stolen in 1984. I don't know how many were made but I assume it's more than two. wg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithB Posted October 27, 2008 Author Share Posted October 27, 2008 Less than 24 hours to go.... please have a look .... we really want our 'tina to go to a good home... £4,141.00 Congratulations Keith. Seems like a very good price for a quality instrument. I trust you are satisfied with the highest bid? Just spoken to the gentleman who's bought it - seems like a really lovely fella - who's massively into his 'tinas - been building a collection for nearly 40 years ..... Lucky Man! Hmmmmmmmm I know it now belongs to him & I suppose he can do what he wants with it, but I certainly hope he is going to play it & not just stick it in a glass case? Cheers Dick You'll be reassured to know he's a player first - collector second Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 You'll be reassured to know he's a player first - collector second Excellent Keith! After all, it surely is an insult to the maker, for a good instrument not to be played. I reckon, collectors who don't bother playing their instruments, should sell them on to genuine players & start collecting some inanimate objects instead, ........like stamps! After all, you can't get much music out of a stamp! Cheers Dick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm clapp Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 After all, you can't get much music out of a stamp! Oh, I don't know. Jon Boden does.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 After all, you can't get much music out of a stamp! Oh, I don't know. Jon Boden does.... ???? Oh, I see, wears big boots eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindizzy Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 After all, you can't get much music out of a stamp! Oh, I don't know. Jon Boden does.... ???? Oh, I see, wears big boots eh? ... and mikes the wooden thing that he stands on..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy M. Grossman Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 ... and mikes the wooden thing that he stands on..... We call that turning a liability into an asset. We had to do something like that on one cut of my record - we couldn't get the foot out so we made it louder so it sounded intentional. wg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Levine Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 ...collectors who don't bother playing their instruments, should sell them on to genuine players... I can understand why people think that. But I don't agree with it. I think of collectors as preserving the instruments for the next generation of players who come along. The instruments aren't being buried- just saved from being lost, stolen, destroyed, or worn out. They'll come back into circulation eventually and meanwhile they're being kept safe and sound. And what is a genuine player? Is it better for the priceless Linota to be bought for a careless eight year old by her nouveau-riche parents? Or better for a collector to keep it safe (for you or me) in a glass case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Is it better for the priceless Linota to be bought for a careless eight year oldby her nouveau-riche parents? Hey Dave, you must be living in a very select area, with neighbours like that. Personally, I'd far rather see good Jeffries being played by the sort of 8, 9 & 10 year old enthusiasts you see at the Fleadhs & Miltown every year, than just gathering dust in some glass case or bank vault, being kept simply as an investment for some rich fat cat. I know to us, many of these beautiful instruments really are works of art, but I have a sneaky suspician, that if instrument makers really did just want their instruments to be looked at, they'd have become painters instead. Cheers Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy M. Grossman Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I would love to hear the sound of that instrument, but that's not my call. You can hear one almost exactly like it - ebony ends instead of wood - in this cut, recorded in 1980. (Sorry for the self-promotion.) Sir Patrick Spens - http://www.compulink.co.uk/~wendyg/rosevil...trick_Spens.mp3 wg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I would love to hear the sound of that instrument, but that's not my call. You can hear one almost exactly like it - ebony ends instead of wood - in this cut, recorded in 1980. (Sorry for the self-promotion.) Sir Patrick Spens - http://www.compulink.co.uk/~wendyg/rosevil...trick_Spens.mp3 wg Hey Wendy, if you've got it .... FLAUNT IT! Wonderful Music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Read Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 ... and mikes the wooden thing that he stands on..... We call that turning a liability into an asset. We had to do something like that on one cut of my record - we couldn't get the foot out so we made it louder so it sounded intentional. wg Back in the days when I was in a little band we actually put a cushion under the guitarists foot. Looked odd but it worked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Just in case you haven't heard these Bass Concertina tracks before? You don't know what love is" by G. de Paul, arr. W. Wakker. played on a (single action) bass concertina. http://www.concertinaconnection.com/youdon'tknow.mp3 It's from this page: http://www.concertinaconnection.com/bass.htm This one is interesting too: http://ia300103.us.archive.org/2/items/The...LibertyBell.MP3 Cheers Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wendy M. Grossman Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 (edited) Just in case you haven't heard these Bass Concertina tracks before? http://ia300103.us.archive.org/2/items/The...LibertyBell.MP3 That one sounds familiar to me - I'm thinking it might be Lea Nicholson off a record he made in the late 1970s of absolutely amazing concertinz music. wg I posted that, and then checked by backing up a directory on that Web page - yes, it's definitely Lea Nicholson's record. If you can possibly get a copy, you should - or listen to the MP3s there of the Brandenburgs and other stuff. I was given a copy in 1981 by a musician who said he thought it was the best concertina playing anywhere, and I agree with him. Edited October 29, 2008 by Wendy M. Grossman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Dunk Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Lea has his own website and downloads are available- as is the CD of the Concertina Record, from Jamring.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirge Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Lea has his own website and downloads are available- as is the CD of the Concertina Record, from Jamring.com Could I have seen him in about 1977 at the Cambridge Folk Club in the Portman Arms? I certainly saw A concertina wizard there and he looked like Lea, as best I can remember. (I went to his website and immediately thought it might well be him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Young Posted January 16, 2009 Share Posted January 16, 2009 Preliminary results show that between May of 1923 and July of 1943 approximately 123 Baritone-Trebles were produced, but only 33 were made of the model 16 (64 keys) with ebony ends. I don't know if any BTs were made prior to 1923. Although they are listed on a Wheatstone price list from 1920, the first citation I found in the production ledgers is 29678. Greetings. I have in my possession a 64-Key with ebony ends serial no. 23926, but it is probably a Contrabass - the lowest note is the C 2 octaves below middle C, and the keys are arranged so that the normal fingering is in the tenor range. In the baritone/bass range everything is the wrong way up, if that makes sense. After a while you begin to understand why it was necessary to invent the Duet system. 23926 seems to be between the period of the Wayne and Dickinson ledgers. Steve D said he hadn't seen another one like it the last time that I took it to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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