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New online lesson launched by McNeela (taught by Jack Talty)


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I've signed up for this course even though I've been playing for 3 years. It seems well designed. The videos are uncomplicated with the fingers being clearly shown and Jack's voice is distinct and measured . He is spending the first few lessons emphasising good habits while introducing the notes and scales. Diagrams and notation are shown in the video at appropriate times and are always available on the page to be downloaded in pdf form. Each lesson so far is quite short and has points where a pause for practice is suggested.

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Early on he says he plays a Wheatstone layout, but like Paul above I haven't gotten very far.  I play Jeffries (more specifically the Carroll variation that has three C#s on the RH outside row), but I can't imagine it will make a lot of difference, and he may well go over both fingering options on specific tunes.

 

I'm only on lesson 6 or 7, and I'm enjoying it so far, even though it's basic stuff, and I'm an intermediate player.  Like Caitlin's irishconcertinalessons.com, you get closeups of both hands to help see the fingering.  Caitlin walks you through the notes with a lot more repetition, which is helpful.  But Jack, so far, talks more (so far) about technique, best practices, and things to avoid.

 

I was surprised to see that on only the second or third tune presented, Jack gets into harmony/chord options.  That's good from my perspective, as my own playing is limited in that area.

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I got a concertina 8 days ago and started Jack Talty's lessons that day and have been doing one lesson per day. I think the course is absolutely excellent from a beginner's persepctive, considering how much I can do in such a short time, and not having played music much at all in about 25 years. I feel like he's setting me up with good habits and a good foundation, and the course is laid out very logically. He does mention where the fingerings would be different for a Jeffries layout.

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I've just discovered that Jack seems to be using an instrument with a slightly different layout to mine, In Lesson 7 he calls for a low A on the push and locates it on the G row left hand  but I have a D there. I've checked my layout agrees with that published in David Elliotts maintenance manual.

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How are people liking this course as few months on?

 

I was curious to see how this course is different from Caitlin's and watched the intro video. I was surprised at how little (none, really) concertina playing there is on the video or promo page, it's almost entirely Padraig Mcneela doing a hard sales pitch for the Christmas specials. For people who signed up in summer, are you allowed to access these special modules with all the bells and whistles and secret tricks for getting invited to a session? :D

 

It would be nice to at least be able to see a sample lesson before giving him your credit card, though I respect expect this is part of the sales strategy.

 

I do like the idea of learning from another perspective but will probably finish Catilin's intermediate course first. 

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I subscribed to all: OAIM, Caitlin, and Jack Talty.

They are all excellent with pros/cons of course 😉

 

There aren’t that much online lessons….I think they kind of complement each other.

Jack Talty cover a wide variety of knowledge (Harmony, Ornamentation but not as much as Caitlin, why some tunes goes well together, key of E flat, why one button or the other, bellow...), I like the one exercise on ornamentation (but why just one exercise ?). Cons…Advance section is not really about concertina techniques (which was a disappointment for me), globally not a lot a tunes, lots of information’s but could extend a little...

But overall I think it does gives a solid concertina foundation ! I can’t answer if this is necessary after Caitlin lessons…But I am sure you will find interesting information’s. If worth the price is up to you 😉

 

None of the three (oaim,…) really focus on how to make a tune sound “good or special”, how to make the tune flowing or small thing here and there to make it different (not sure if this is clear), but this is probably about personal style and after years of practice, something will come up…But why not teaching a bit of style ? 😊 Maybe in the future.

 

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Nicolas

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