Anglogeezertoo Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 (edited) Rambling around the big wide Web, as I do in my idle moments I came across this, ... Melophone A quaint development of the free reed?? Jake P.S. Now that I've had time to search I see that it has been discussed previously. Edited July 25, 2020 by Anglogeezertoo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeezebox Of Delights Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 (edited) Fascinating! Kind of like a free-reed hurdy gurdy... Edited July 26, 2020 by Squeezebox Of Delights to correct the autocorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Mellish Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 I wondered briefly why there are more buttons than pads/notes, then realised that the upper notes of each row ("string") are the same as the lower notes of the next one. The connections between the buttons and the pads are apparently by fine wires. It's a bit reminiscent of the connections to railway signals, on a miniature scale. The push-pull action of the double bellows is brilliant, corresponding (sort of) to up and down with a bow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barnert Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 I saw one in the music museum in Brussels 15 years ago. Mentioned it here. Didn’t know what it was, Rich morse identified it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill N Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, David Barnert said: I saw one in the music museum in Brussels 15 years ago. Closer to home, there is also one in the Accordion Museum in Montmagny, Quebec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inventor Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 (edited) There is one in the Horniman Museum, Forest Hill, London. It is now fully restored. However when I first visited the Horniman in the 1950s, many of the musical instruments were in a very sorry state, owing to neglect during the war. The Melophone was was totally fallen apart in it's case, and you could see all the internal mechanism with wires connecting from the buttons to little trap doors. This was much more interesting to me, as I have always been fascinated by how musical instruments work. Inventor. Edited August 1, 2020 by inventor Wrote on instead of in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barnert Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 Here’s another site with pictures, internal and external, and a 19th century drawing of someone playing one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 (edited) This is my one, #99 by A. Brown, Paris: And here's the carte de visite of the American melophonist John B Donniker - blackface performer and composer of popular songs, who belonged to several minstrel companies in the 1850s and '60s Edited April 19, 2021 by Stephen Chambers Edited to add photo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barnert Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 On 8/3/2020 at 6:07 PM, Stephen Chambers said: And here's the carte de visite of the American melophonist John B Donniker - blackface performer and composer of popular songs, who belonged to several minstrel companies in the 1850s and '60s Interesting that he’s playing it with the cover removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 10 hours ago, David Barnert said: Interesting that he’s playing it with the cover removed. Indeed, and the only other photograph (that I know of) of a melophonist (taken in Istanbul, Turkey, in the 1860s/'70s) also shows him playing without the cover: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barnert Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 42 minutes ago, Stephen Chambers said: Indeed, and the only other photograph (that I know of) of a melophonist (taken in Istanbul, Turkey, in the 1860s/'70s) also shows him playing without the cover: Neat. I don’t imagine you have any recordings of someone playing one? I found two YouTubes of people squeaking out random notes, but not actually playing it. https://youtu.be/UVreOGOr5jo https://youtu.be/kg-Sr5Ae7bQ YouTube is frustratingly hard to search for “melophone” because it wants to believe you’re searching for “mellophone.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, David Barnert said: Neat. I don’t imagine you have any recordings of someone playing one? 'Fraid not, though a guitarist should be able to make some sense of one... Quote YouTube is frustratingly hard to search for “melophone” because it wants to believe you’re searching for “mellophone.” It's the same with Google, but the words are so similar that they're bound to get misspelled sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barnert Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Stephen Chambers said: guitarist should be able to make some sense of one Do we even know that the rows of buttons are tuned like guitar strings? They all seem to have more than six rows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, David Barnert said: Do we even know that the rows of buttons are tuned like guitar strings? They all seem to have more than six rows. They were designed for players of stringed instruments to play - think of the buttons as "frets" to understand how they work along a row. But some sources compare them to guitars (which would be tuned in fourths from row to row), whilst others say like a cello (which would be fifths). Edited August 6, 2020 by Stephen Chambers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barnert Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Stephen Chambers said: They were designed for players of stringed instruments to play - think of the buttons as "frets" to understand how they work along a row. But some sources compare them to guitars (which would be tuned in fourths from row to row), whilst others say like a cello (which would be fifths). Be it cello or guitar, one major difference with the melophone would be the absence of “open strings.” Unless the internal machinery is much more sophisticated than it looks, you can’t rely on the thing to play an A (for instance) if you’re not pressing any of the buttons in the row that corresponds to an A string. This would make playing the melophone much more complicated than playing either the guitar or the cello (both of which I play). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 6 hours ago, David Barnert said: Be it cello or guitar, one major difference with the melophone would be the absence of “open strings.” Unless the internal machinery is much more sophisticated than it looks, you can’t rely on the thing to play an A (for instance) if you’re not pressing any of the buttons in the row that corresponds to an A string. This would make playing the melophone much more complicated than playing either the guitar or the cello (both of which I play). Mind you, classical "strings" players would normally try to avoid playing "open strings" anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inventor Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 I see that there's one in the Akkordeon Museum https://akkordeon-museum.ch/ Opening page shows one center stage in the first photograph. I can't find more details about it , but my German is not very good, so maybe I have missed the full details. Inventor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 For lots of internal photos, of the infernal mechanism etc., check out Restoring a melophone built by Pierre Jacquet in Paris, France around 1838 - 1840. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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