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You are right and it's the kind of comment I could write myself lol I changed it to "I would choose" 😉 Nicolas

I would choose a nice vintage 20b...They have a great and charming sound. They are not the fastest but fun to play and a nice warm sound. This one seem a good choice : https://concertina.co.uk/stock-selection/anglo-concertinas/lachenal-20-key-anglo-in-c-g-with-steel-reeds-messy-ends/ And I would ask to tune the very left button of G row (left side) to a low A on draw. this will open many possibilities in Irish (New useful note, chord).

I don't think there are extra cost for you !

Hello Richard, I have the experiences but the other way... You need to fill up the CN23 form in 2 copy and put it visible on the box (don't do a paper yourself ;-)) The HS number is 920590 for accordion/concertina. When I user the local postage service (like USPS), they give me the CN23 pdf already filled in (well from my input on site)...I just have to print it, sign it and eventually had something in description...Don't forget to do 2 copy. Here is a link with more info : https://www.sendcloud.com/cn22-cn23-customs-declarations/ Good luck !

Yes I am pretty sure the Eiru Gold is great 🙂But I wonder if there is a huge difference between the two... I have been thinking since my post and I decide the Gold is out of reach financially... I am even hesitating between the Eiru Silver and the Vintage model...any input welcome ! (they all have 5 years warranty which is a peace of mind as you say 😊) The Vintage has riveted reed (like Wheatstone during a period...and accordion reed), I have no idea if it is good or bad if change of tone and all...The Eiru has clamped reed...I have a few months to decide anyway. It is difficult to hear the difference from video but I have the impression de Eiru as a warmer sound…

Hello everyone, I am also looking for a new concertina but within EU which means 7Mount, Suttner, Irish concertina company. I love 7Mount but lots of patience is needed, Suttner is 1.5 year (even more patience) and Irish company is 8 weeks... interesting. I was think about the Eiru but I can't find many record/vid and it is always confusing because there is Eiru Silver and Eiru Gold !! I wonder if someone had the chance to try both and give some feedback ? Thank you ! That would be very helpful. Nicolas

Thank you Mike, I understand what you mean 😉 I am interested for some reason but I think it is a bit too expensive new (his 30b is just 100pound extra). And I will have to pay an extra 450 euros of import taxes !! So buying it new is not an option for me 😕 Got me move on and now looking in the EU area, some good choices but reduced to one: 7Mount (never had any response and I heard he does not produce them on order any more...), Suttner (1.5 year of waiting), and Irish concertina company (I believe they are quality concertina and just 8 weeks of waiting, looking for the Vintage mode or Eiru....). I have time to decide, no hurry.

Thank you Mike ! Yes the C# is indeed a nice extra for Irish 🙂 I was also wondering for tone and bellow size...But then I heard what Cormac Begley can do with a piccolo; so I am pretty sure the Marcus will work for Irish style. I agree with limitations...I just might miss the reverse G/A but I when I had a 30b, I couldn't change my habit ha ha.

Still looking...I can give a good price 🤪

Many responses, thank you ! Yes this kind of topic bring confusion again lol But yes Alex is probably right looking at the pictures 🙂 But why the put brass reeds on description...crazy ! Good to know the difference. I did try the Clare once and really like the sound but found it kind of "introvered" (hoping it make sense). So as I understand, the brass one will make a bigger sound (which is strange from brass vs Aluminium). I'll probably should go there and try it (no video yet on youtube).

Hello everyone, I have seen a few thread comparing steel/brass reeds...but for vintage concertina, or kind of confusing response because some talk about brass reed plates 😉 Just find out Irish Concertina company propose the Clare concertina but with brass reed (that's new to me for a hybrid). https://www.irishconcertinacompany.com/concertina-models There are 3 surprises for me : 1. It is more expensive than steel reeds...Usually the opposite for vintage concertina. 2. They describe it as "Bright sound" (of course always relative) but I was expecting more mellow... 3. They say same as the Vintage model (has concertina reeds) concerning brightness : I always thought accordion reeds sound more bright than concertina reeds... I find it interesting 😉 Any thought ? Best Nicolas

Up for an old thread, maybe someone can help 10 years after... I am planning to buy a Marcus Traveller...(I prefer a used one but I can't find any, I find it pretty expensive for a 21b...). I have the same questions...Does the size affect the sound in someway ?it seem less "Cavernish" on the left side (hoping it means something :-) Would it be appropriate to play Irish ? (of course I know the limitation vs 30b but I like that is is lighweight, easy to carry and all). Thank you !

Yes and also 20% on the shipping cost ! 450$ to ship a concertina seem out of price for nearly anyone...Is that with UPS and full options ? With USPS it is much cheaper...I had two concertinas sent for around 90$ from US to Belgium.

If you feel you don't play it that much, I'll like to buy it 😉 Thank you ! Nicolas

No news from sdbr3121, so sale still on. Just for info I just found a Clareman sold used for 2295 euros here : https://www.adverts.ie/other-music-instruments-equipment/clareman-concertina/19269752 Best

Great, you can send me a PM, that's fine ! Best

Hello, yes it is... Best, Nicolas

Hello Jacques, Barleycorn has one with brass reed and soft tone and 6 folds https://concertina.co.uk/stock-selection/anglo-concertinas/lachenal-28-key-in-g-d-with-brass-reeds-7864/ Best

I could also be interested to trade with a duet to try trying a new system 🙂

I had both, I prefer the Clover without hesitation. The sound is more pleasing to my hear and like the playability better. The Clover was one my favorite hybrid. Best

Ha ha that's kind of cheating gypsea...that's a norwegian cat which are super cuddly and affectionate 😉 With my previous cat, claws where sharper than ever 🙂 I had to change room or lock him outside...

New tune played slowly because of my beginner level, not the concertina 😉 Just to have an idea of sound, poor smartphone microphone.

I can't compare but had a Clover and I love it, lightweight, big volume, fast and great tone (one of my favorite of many hybrid that I tried, but never tried the Marcus ;-)). I only found the air button kind of hard to reach because of super stiff hand-strap. Maybe only on the specific model I got.... It had the standard finish but though it looked pretty good (to me). Quality is excellent. But if you tried the Deluxe and loved it, I would definitively go for that one 😉 The proximity factor is a huge plus ! Good luck, Nicolas

Playing in session or in original key: 30b Playing for fun : 20b is sufficient if you don't mind playing the same key ! D tune can eventually be played in C, A tune can eventually be played in G. F tune can eventually be played in G. I say eventually because some notes can be too low/high or the tune won't sound good in that new key. So be prepare for some sacrifice as maybe you won't be able to play your favorite tune. The biggest problem is if you like to make a tune more interesting by adding that special note (out of home key) that can only be found in 30b. But no big deal.

Hi Doug, I would love to hear such an album ! Put me on the list if this project see light of day. I also decided to focus only on 20b just because of the price difference between a 20b and 30b...it always amaze me. And also I am playing just for fun, I decide 20b is enough (or why not a 22b ;-)) Nice thread Nicolas