Aussie Ebay Scam

[malcolm clapp]

Getting a bit off topic, but....

 

Can we safely assume that any references to Perth in this thread relate to Perth, Western Australia?

 

To clarify, Claremont is about 10kms form Perth city centre. Not "inner city" in the American or European sense perhaps, but bearing in mind the huge size of the connurbation centred on Perth, and by Australian standards, I would consider it "inner city", which does not, to my knowledge, have negative or condescending connotations in Australia (except, perhaps, in relation to traffic).

 

Certainly the description "suburb" also applies. I believe the official title is "Town of Claremont", just to cloud the issue a little more.... Presumably it has, or did have its own administration. However, this would neither allow or prevent it being considered a suburb in Australian terms.

 

Perhaps I should have described it as an "inner suburb" rather than as an "inner city suburb".

 

The word "neighbourhood" is seldom, if ever used to describe parts of Australian cities. Definitely negative connotations as a result of too much American TV perhaps?

[malcolm clapp]

Frankly, we here in Denmark are quite enthusiastic about Australia, even more so since you supplied our new crown princess.

 

In reality, the start of a cunning Tasmanian plot to take over the world

 

There is a Stagi importer in Queensland....  Maybe the seller, or Z***th, contacted him for a valuation?

That seems pure speculation on your part, Malcolm, but if the seller contacted Queensland, then she shouldn't be saying she got an appraisal from the Perth shop, and I would hope that neither dealer would be willing to issue an apparaisal without the actual appraiser examining the actual instrument. I think that speculation is less likely than the speculation that the auction is a scam.

 

Sorry, I left out a line here. (fingers going too fast for the brain, or vica versa).

 

Should have read: "Maybe the seller bought the instrument originally from him, or Z***th contacted him for a valuation".

 

Speculation for sure, but my point was that it would justify what you consider an overly high value appraisal for a Stagi, scam or not.

 

I agree with the concensus of opinion that the likelyhood of a scam is high. Now, who dares email the seller with a link to this site?

That would spoil her holiday....

[richard]

Hiya

 

Here is my "FURTHER COMMUNICATIONS" of me and the seller. It is not true that I have too much free time.

 

 

 

You asked:

"Cheers I have a few more questions before I bid. Is it an English concertina or an Anglo concertina. Usually an Anglo has 3 rows, I am told. I would like to see a picture of it.What happened to the picture on e bay? Thank you. r"

 

Hi Richard, It is an English Concertina. I am now home from holidays and have looked at the instrument which has been carefully stored away and it does have 4 rows of keys. The picture on ebay was deleted by me because it was just a picture I picked from google. I will take a picture of mine and get someone to show me how to put it into ebay tomorrow although I remember that ebay says you can't revise your add when there is only 12 hours to go. If you want to give me an email address for you, I can email the picture to you. regards Dianne.

 

 

 

Thanks,

Richard

[JimLucas]

Can we safely assume that any references to Perth in this thread relate to Perth, Western Australia? 

I, at least, have until now carefully avoided any references in this thread to Perth, Scotland, Perth Amboy, New Jersey (USA) or any other Perth but Perth, West Oz.

 

...the huge size of the connurbation centred on Perth...

Anything like the "megalopolis" on America's east coast, which stretches from Greater Boston to Greater Washington, DC, or about 500 miles (800 km) without a break in its urbanity?

 

Certainly the description "suburb" also applies.

In Australian, perhaps, but I think not in American. (Try looking up both "suburb" and "inner city" on dictionary.com. It uses many dictionaries as sources, but I suspect that Australian expertise is poorly represented.)

 

Perhaps I should have described it as an "inner suburb" rather than as an "inner city suburb".

Wouldn't have helped. To me a "suburb" is simply not a part of the city of which it's a suburb (though it may be a smaller city in its own right), but an outlying area.

 

The word "neighbourhood" is seldom, if ever used to describe parts of Australian cities. Definitely negative connotations as a result of too much American TV perhaps? 

I don't think that's the reason. First of all, we don't spell it that way... no "u". More seriously, the word "neighborhood" itself has no negative connotations. We speak of "good neighborhoods" and "bad neighborhoods". A "neighborhood" is simply the small area that one shares with one's "neighbors". I don't think American TV only talks about "bad neighborhoods".

 

I think we may just have to accept that in detail we don't really speak the same language.

[JimLucas]

Frankly, we here in Denmark are quite enthusiastic about Australia, even more so since you supplied our new crown princess.

In reality, the start of a cunning Tasmanian plot to take over the world

Not a good start. Not only is Denmark too small to be a serious tool for taking over the world, but Danes simply aren't interested in helping with such a plan. They have better things to do... like marrying foreigners. This mouse ain't gonna roar.

 

...my point was that it would justify what you consider an overly high value appraisal for a Stagi, scam or not.

Well, I think it's an unreasonably high price or "valuation", but I suspect not unusually high. Prices at The Button Box prices are notably lower than those of most non-specialist dealers. So while I think the price -- and the quoted valuation -- is too high, I don't think that suggests a scam.

[JimLucas]

Here is my "FURTHER COMMUNICATIONS" of me and the seller.

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Richard, I think the continued and detailed responses to your questions suggest that this one really isn't a scam. Unfortunately, their content also suggests that the seller is inattentive and careless to a dangerous degree.

 

Edited: to correct a typo.

Edited January 25, 2005 by JimLucas

[Stephen Chambers]

I think the continued and detailed responses ... suggest that this one really isn't a scam.  Unfortunately, their content also suggests that the seller is inattentive and careless to a dangerous degree.

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And still, barely five and a half hours from the end of the auction, nobody really knows exactly what it is that she is selling.

 

The only certainty is that it isn't Ken's Lachenal Anglo that was shown in her photograph in the first place ...

[JimLucas]

Auction now ended, with no bids.

I wonder if it will be re-listed with a proper photograph.

[Stephen Chambers]

I wonder if it will be re-listed with a proper photograph.

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A proper (and consistent) description might help too ...

[hielandman]

You know what's funny(besides Perth Amboy being mentioned on this site!), is that I really did buy a "fake Lachenal" on ebay last summer. It was a German made copy of a Lachenal, probably late 19th, early 20th century, and was not labeled, but from the fretwork(identical to a Lachenal), I "knew" it was a Lachenal I was getting cheap! Lo and behold, when it came in the mail(from England), I was thrilled, until I unpacked it, and saw instantly I was fooled by a picture! The seller never mentioned a makers name, or implied anything, and I thought I had the real deal, and it was a German copy of a Lachenal, a "fake Lachenal", which is what I originally thought this topic was about! Take care, Folks!!

 

PS-Even though it was not what I thought I was buying, in this case I'm glad I did, because I get a kick out of it whenever I look at it! When I am finished restoring it, I will post a picture of it on this site(give me a few more months)DS

Edited January 28, 2005 by hielandman