michael sam wild Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 (edited) We heard Sam Sweeney ( on EC) and Hannah James (Piano Accordion)play this great two part 3/2 hornpipe on Tuesday night at a snowey Royal Concertinas session up on't moors at Dungworth Any sources or the dots or ABC? They said it was a Playford tune.. Barham Down is inKent , it has a windwill on it. Tune must come from 1600s I went on this Playford site but couldn't find it. Excellent Playford resource though! http://www.les-plais...layford1698.htm This is Laurel Swift on fiddle teaching it The link to Elke Baker the superb US scottish style fiddler has it with some other 3/2 hornpipes. she's playing them at a fast and vigorous dance speed. I wonder why 3/2 died out? Look at the exuberance of her expression and movement. The tapping of the audience's feet shows how catchy it is Edited January 16, 2010 by michael sam wild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Harrison Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 It's in Peter Barnes' 1st (blue) book............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael sam wild Posted January 16, 2010 Author Share Posted January 16, 2010 Hi Robin, I don't know it , have you a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lester Bailey Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Try here Might be the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Hi Michael Another: http://www.noteflight.com/scores/view/a93ed23c32a2ed88d62a64a07f84d2e0797f53d3 Thanks Leo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Drinkwater Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 I wonder why 3/2 died out? Look at the exuberance of her expression and movement. The tapping of the audience's feet shows how catchy it is Well, 3/2 hasn't quite died out, Mike. Fiddle player John Offord has produced a newly updated version of his book, John of the Green - The Cheshire Way, which is full of 3/2 tunes. Here is the link, John of the Green - The Cheshire Way to find out more and to order a copy. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barnert Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 We heard Sam Sweeney ( on EC) and Hannah James (Piano Accordion)play this great two part 3/2 hornpipe on Tuesday night at a snowey Royal Concertinas session up on't moors at Dungworth Any sources or the dots or ABC? They said it was a Playford tune.. Barham Down is inKent , it has a windwill on it. Tune must come from 1600s [...] I wonder why 3/2 died out? Look at the exuberance of her expression and movement. The tapping of the audience's feet shows how catchy it is It's in Peter Barnes' 1st (blue) book............ Here is Peter's "blue" book (there is now also a volume 2 in red). I first heard the tune in a very energetic recording by the wonderful band, Bare Necessities. Here is a link to the CD that it's on (at the top of the page). 3/2 is not dead, nor is the Playford repertoire in general. I spent an hour and a half this afternoon at a session where we played nothing but. There are events all over the place where you can go to dance to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanette Hooker Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 There is a excellent arrangement of three 3/2 tunes by Simple Gifts. Simple Gifts webpage. They do Waters of Holland, Easter Thursday and Barham Downs on their CD "Other Places, Other Times" and you can buy a music book with the CD. Many of the tunes in the book is arranged for two to four instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barnert Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 There is a excellent arrangement of three 3/2 tunes by Simple Gifts. Simple Gifts webpage. They do Waters of Holland, Easter Thursday and Barham Downs on their CD "Other Places, Other Times" and you can buy a music book with the CD. Many of the tunes in the book is arranged for two to four instruments. Interesting that all these tunes are also on the earlier Bare Necessities recording I mentioned above. "Waters of Holland" is not in 3/2, however, but 4/4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael sam wild Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) I wonder why 3/2 died out? Look at the exuberance of her expression and movement. The tapping of the audience's feet shows how catchy it is Well, 3/2 hasn't quite died out, Mike. Fiddle player John Offord has produced a newly updated version of his book, John of the Green - The Cheshire Way, which is full of 3/2 tunes. Here is the link, John of the Green - The Cheshire Way to find out more and to order a copy. Chris Hi Chris Thanks. I have John of the Green book etc etc But I think the live playing had died out . I do remember songs from the 60s in 3/2 and a few tunes from the Northumbrian tradition but again I don't know if they were live or revived. Vickers and Pete Stewart's books are thick with them. Jamie Knowles did a great job with them and Brian Peters is fond of them The Hexamshire Lass is a great 3/2 song. A number of people have said they haven't died out. But I think there was a hiatus and those played now were revivals . Any other information on the transition to common form of hornpipe in 4/4 would be welcome . This article by Paul Davenport of South Yorkshire is very helpful http://www.hallamtrads.co.uk/Research_files/Hornpipe.pdf Edited January 17, 2010 by michael sam wild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael sam wild Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) Try here Might be the answer Hi Lester As I commented on Mel net that's in 6/8 but same name Geoff Wright who was also there on Tuedsday last went looking for it and has put the 3/2 on The Session site under tunes http://www.thesessio...s/display/10194 Edited January 17, 2010 by michael sam wild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael sam wild Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) Hi Michael Another: http://www.notefligh...f84d2e0797f53d3 Thanks Leo Thanks Leo That's it, in D.. Thanks for the lead , I joined Noteflight Mike Edited January 17, 2010 by michael sam wild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Harrison Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 .......3/2...not dead yet.....two commonly played N/E English session tunes. Just played them today in Cambridge (Ontario) Robin Rusty Gulley.pdf Dusty Miller.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael sam wild Posted January 18, 2010 Author Share Posted January 18, 2010 It's in Peter Barnes' 1st (blue) book............ Is that the 3/2 tune or the 6/8 one that has the same name? Confusing! I'm trying to confrim the 3/2 Playford link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindizzy Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 (edited) .......3/2...not dead yet.....two commonly played N/E English session tunes. Just played them today in Cambridge (Ontario) Robin ...and followed by "Our cat has kitted" (at the sesion site) around here. This 3/2 (If you will not have me, you may let me go) is my current favourite ... if I can get my fingers round it! Chris Edited January 18, 2010 by spindizzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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