Paul Read Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Any body any thoughts on whether this would once have been a duet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Any body any thoughts on whether this would once have been a duet? Paul: Is this the one?? The link is missing in your post? http://cgi.ebay.com/50-key-Anglo-Concertin...1QQcmdZViewItem Thanks Leo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Read Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 Any body any thoughts on whether this would once have been a duet? Paul: Is this the one?? The link is missing in your post? http://cgi.ebay.com/50-key-Anglo-Concertin...1QQcmdZViewItem Thanks Leo That's it Leo. Thanks, I forgot to paste the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Timson Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 It's certainly a humungous beast. I am reminded of the Duke of Wellington saying "I don't know if these men will frighten the enemy, but by God they frighten me! ". My old concertina Kilroy was a 45 button G/D and (as the name suggests) used to belong to the anglo player Fred Kilroy. As at the time he had it there was no financial advantage to converting a Jeffries duet to an anglo I have always regarded it as good evidence that Jeffries did make big anglos as well as duets. So the question is an open one, although some of our more expert experts may know of some signs or portents that might adduce whether a particular anglo was once a duet. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm clapp Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 (edited) It's certainly a humungous beast. I am reminded of the Duke of Wellington saying "I don't know if these men will frighten the enemy, but by God they frighten me! ". My old concertina Kilroy was a 45 button G/D and (as the name suggests) used to belong to the anglo player Fred Kilroy. As at the time he had it there was no financial advantage to converting a Jeffries duet to an anglo I have always regarded it as good evidence that Jeffries did make big anglos as well as duets. So the question is an open one, although some of our more expert experts may know of some signs or portents that might adduce whether a particular anglo was once a duet. Chris Monster??? Come on.... Is it really that humungous? In weight maybe, but hard to tell from the photos the exact size. Anyone asked the dimensions yet? My C Jeffries 38 Bb/F, 6.25 inches AF, has 9 chambers across, just like this one has. And I remember (20 plus years ago) the late Andrew Blakeney-Edwards playing a 50 button Jeffries that was little (if any) larger than standard. There appears to be slightly more than the usual amount of weighted reeds, which suggests that this concertina may not have started life as a G/D or even an Ab/Eb anglo, but I can't see much evidence of it having been converted from a duet. And, frankly, so what if it has? Done properly, it can be a very successful operation as regards playability, though it may detract from the concertina's historical importance to the purist. My 10 cents worth.... MC Edited August 26, 2006 by malcolm clapp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Read Posted August 26, 2006 Author Share Posted August 26, 2006 Monster??? Come on.... Is it really that humungous? In weight maybe, but hard to tell from the photos the exact size. Anyone asked the dimensions yet? My C Jeffries 38 Bb/F, 6.25 inches AF, has 9 chambers across, just like this one has. And I remember (20 plus years ago) the late Andrew Blakeney-Edwards playing a 50 button Jeffries that was little (if any) larger than standard. There appears to be slightly more than the usual amount of weighted reeds, which suggests that this concertina may not have started life as a G/D or even an Ab/Eb anglo, but I can't see much evidence of it having been converted from a duet. And, frankly, so what if it has? Done properly, it can be a very successful operation as regards playability, though it may detract from the concertina's historical importance to the purist. My 10 cents worth.... MC I'm not sure I suggested it's a bad thing. Just interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Timson Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 Done properly, it can be a very successful operation as regards playability, though it may detract from the concertina's historical importance to the purist. Maybe it's because from time to time I have entertained thoughts of learning Jeffries duet, but it's certainly true that if all the Jeffries duets were to disappear to make anglos I for one would feel very sad. It's not purism, it's just that the total disappearance of a type of musical instrument (even spoons!) would leave me feeling diminished, even more so a type of concertina. Fortunarely the financial incentive to convert is not as great as it once was. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm clapp Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 (edited) .... the total disappearance of a type of musical instrument (even spoons!) would leave me feeling diminished .... Chris I have to agree. Hard to eat Corn Flakes with a knife and fork.... MC Edited August 26, 2006 by malcolm clapp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Stephenson Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 Now TWO monster Jeffries on e-bay at the same time, maybe the Chinese one is smaller and cheaper ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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