Stephen Chambers Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Oh I don't know, I feel a need to be kind to Bodhran players. My wife is learning at the moment because she enjoys hitting things...Get her to learn to play the snare drum. Much nicer with English music. Personally I would much prefer the effect of the instrument that was replaced by those two, in both Irish and English traditional music; the humble tambourine (not shaken, but struck with the hand!). Within living memory England and Ireland seem to have shared a common tradition of tambourine playing, best exemplified in old recordings of the playing of Rabbidy Baxter in England, or Seamus Tansey in Ireland, but it seems to be forgotten now. I sometimes wonder if I'm the only person who plays it these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidcorner Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 There is a Scottish band called ' Ceilidh Minogue ' i believe dave I remember that one. I also remember "The Incredible Fling Band", who came from Ullapool. Current names that spring to mind are "Hugh MacDairmid's Haircut" "Robbie Shepherd's Nightmare" (Robbie Shepherd is a Scottish music presenter on BBC Radio Scotland) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 don't know how true this is but I recall someone saying that Seamus Ennis said that the best way to play bodhran was with a stanley knife. may be one of these apochryphal? tales tho Dunno about Seamus, but I know for a fact that it's been said by quite a few people. And not a few of them sounded quite serious about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 ...tambourine playing, best exemplified in old recordings of the playing of Rabbidy Baxter in England, or Seamus Tansey in Ireland,... Is that the same Seamus Tansey that I know as a flute player, or another one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Besser Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Some of my favorite band names are plays on tune names. Examples: a local contra dance band called Whiskers Before Breakfast. And the Madison, Wisc. band: THe Last Gaspe (all contra dance bands are required by law to play Gaspe Reel). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 ...tambourine playing, best exemplified in old recordings of the playing of Rabbidy Baxter in England, or Seamus Tansey in Ireland,...Is that the same Seamus Tansey that I know as a flute player, or another one? The very same Jim. Take a listen to the album of himself & Eddie Corcoran that Bill Leader recorded in the Masters of Irish Music series, nearly 40 years ago, and you'll hear some extremely lively tambourine playing. One of Seamus' fondest memories would be of the Wren boys with their "three-quarter flutes" and tambourines one Christmas when he was a child, it made a huge impression on him & he was never the same after hearing them! There was a strong tradition of playing flute & tambourine in the South Sligo region, hence the old recordings of John Reynolds with flute player Tom Morrison on 78s. Another recording of an Irish tambourine player is on the Joe Cooley album. where his brother Jack accompanies him on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Timson Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 (edited) Personally I would much prefer the effect of the instrument that was replaced by those two, in both Irish and English traditional music; the humble tambourine (not shaken, but struck with the hand!). Danny Stradling style? I'd have no problem with that. Mrs Woody: are you listening? Chris Edited to add PS: Stephen, do you remember teaching me the basics of playing the bodhran in the cafe area of C# House back in about 1975? Edited May 26, 2006 by Chris Timson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Personally I would much prefer the effect of the instrument that was replaced by those two, in both Irish and English traditional music; the humble tambourine (not shaken, but struck with the hand!).Danny Stradling style? Not from what I heard on the Oak album ... Edited to add PS: Stephen, do you remember teaching me the basics of playing the bodhran in the cafe area of C# House back in about 1975? How embarrassing for you, I hope you made a full recovery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Timson Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 How embarrassing for you, I hope you made a full recovery! It's like the definition of a gentleman. I know how to play the bodhran - but choose not to. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 It's like the definition of a gentleman. I know how to play the bodhran - but choose not to. As opposed to all those who don't know how -- or when, -- but do so, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_boveri Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 Oh I don't know, I feel a need to be kind to Bodhran players. My wife is learning at the moment because she enjoys hitting things...Get her to learn to play the snare drum. Much nicer with English music. Personally I would much prefer the effect of the instrument that was replaced by those two, in both Irish and English traditional music; the humble tambourine (not shaken, but struck with the hand!). Within living memory England and Ireland seem to have shared a common tradition of tambourine playing, best exemplified in old recordings of the playing of Rabbidy Baxter in England, or Seamus Tansey in Ireland, but it seems to be forgotten now. I sometimes wonder if I'm the only person who plays it these days? they play it extensively in choro, a traditional music from brazil. its called the pandeiro, and is a little different than the typical tambourine, in that it can be tuned, and the bells arent so annoying. i have a friend from brazil who plays it, and it is truly an amazing instrument. the complexities of technique and sounds that can be made on the pandeiro are surprising, compared to the stigma of tambourine in popular society as an instrument played by people who cant play instruments. the soundsi can think of off the top of my head that really astound me are when my friend does a sort of shakey / drumroll thing by dragging her finger up the drum and when my friend makes dips and splash noises on the pandeiro. i tried to get her to play it with me in irish music, but she said it sounded horrible when we did. i dont know if she was referring to her playing ability or the instrument combination itself. she wants to learn the bodhran, so when she does, we'll see if she'll give it another try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodore Kloba Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 (edited) they play it extensively in choro, a traditional music from brazil. its called the pandeiro, and is a little different than the typical tambourine, in that it can be tuned, and the bells arent so annoying.Physicist and all-around character Richard Feynman played the pandeiro (and later the frigidera), and wrote about his experience playing in a Brazilian Samba group in Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman. Edited May 30, 2006 by Theodore Kloba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffwright Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Well there was a trio who called themselves Wheatstone Bridge I suppose they didn't have an ohm to go to? My fave bandname must be the The Flying Chaucers from Canterbury although the Sussex Pistols still must get the usual question "Is that johnny rotten?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Well there was a trio who called themselves Wheatstone BridgeI suppose they didn't have an ohm to go to? To puns you apparently have no resistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterT Posted June 1, 2006 Author Share Posted June 1, 2006 My fave bandname must be the The Flying Chaucers from Canterbury.... A little closer to home than that (three members live in Croydon); they dropped into my monthly music session earlier this year, and a good time was had by all. http://www.folkicons.co.uk/flychau.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 (edited) There was a strong tradition of playing flute & tambourine in the South Sligo region, hence the old recordings of John Reynolds with flute player Tom Morrison on 78s. Meanwhile, myself and my tambourine are just back, after a very enjoyable weekend, from the Michael Coleman Memorial in Gurteen, Co. Sligo, the heartland for that style of traditional music. Another recording of an Irish tambourine player is on the Joe Cooley album. where his brother Jack accompanies him on it. And if you would like to see, and hear, what I'm talking about, then take a look at this clip (which has only recently surfaced) of Joe Cooley, his brother Jack on tambourine and Desie Mulkere on tenor banjo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-K8wsVWqxc Awesome! Edited for an n too far (Dublin'?) Edited September 5, 2006 by Stephen Chambers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Atkin Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 Judging from the recent postings in another thread, this might have some legs. For a one-off gig with two melodeon players (one and two row), we went under the name of "Captain Kharzi and the Galloping Majors". Not really sure how well received it was . I while later, I had a dance band for two or three years. Line-up fiddle, fiddle/hammered dulcimer, melodeon, concertina. I was a lot more conservative, here, and the band was called "The Mad Hatters". So, how about some really wacky names, either actual, or yet to happen. I played with an outfit including squeezer Ralph Jordan and non-squeezers Andy Lamb, Trevor Bennett and Chris Pitt that gloried in the name of The Hackney Martians. Thought about being the Woolwich Fairies and the Cambridge Heathens also, but one wans't comprehensible to anyone outside east London and the other just wasn't us... And before that there was Melons for Ecstacy, a title derived from an insane 'novel' by the same title. I don't recommend it especially, but the name did stick in people's minds, for good or ill. Gavin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterT Posted September 5, 2006 Author Share Posted September 5, 2006 And before that there was Melons for Ecstacy, a title derived from an insane 'novel' by the same title. I don't recommend it especially, but the name did stick in people's minds, for good or ill. And there was I, thinking that it was something to do with one of the band members! Regards, Peter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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