Michael Eskin Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 I picked up an iPad this afternoon, happy to report that all the Concertina related apps work perfectly on the device, and some of them, like Englitina and Duettina, when blown up full screen are really a blast to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 I'm curious, will Apple allow you to build apps that work exclusively on the iPad? or all apps have to be "multiplateform" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Eskin Posted April 6, 2010 Author Share Posted April 6, 2010 I'm curious, will Apple allow you to build apps that work exclusively on the iPad? or all apps have to be "multiplateform" ? No, you can do iPad-only apps as well as multiplatform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon H Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 I'm curious, will Apple allow you to build apps that work exclusively on the iPad? or all apps have to be "multiplateform" ? No, you can do iPad-only apps as well as multiplatform. Michael do you happen to know if Tunebook and Tunepal work on the ipad, I expect they do, but it would be great to know in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted April 6, 2010 Share Posted April 6, 2010 I'm curious, will Apple allow you to build apps that work exclusively on the iPad? or all apps have to be "multiplateform" ? No, you can do iPad-only apps as well as multiplatform. Interesting, you could pretty much have the whole layout of a 30 buttons on the iPad :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Eskin Posted April 6, 2010 Author Share Posted April 6, 2010 I'm curious, will Apple allow you to build apps that work exclusively on the iPad? or all apps have to be "multiplateform" ? No, you can do iPad-only apps as well as multiplatform. Michael do you happen to know if Tunebook and Tunepal work on the ipad, I expect they do, but it would be great to know in advance. Tunebook works fine, I don't have Tunepal to test, but every app I've tried works fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Eskin Posted April 6, 2010 Author Share Posted April 6, 2010 I'm curious, will Apple allow you to build apps that work exclusively on the iPad? or all apps have to be "multiplateform" ? No, you can do iPad-only apps as well as multiplatform. Interesting, you could pretty much have the whole layout of a 30 buttons on the iPad :-) Quite true... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_boveri Posted April 7, 2010 Share Posted April 7, 2010 (edited) you're making me jealous! i want to get an ipad! i'm hoping to get one as a graduation gift from my parents. Edited April 7, 2010 by david_boveri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Eskin Posted April 7, 2010 Author Share Posted April 7, 2010 (edited) Submitted to Apple tonight for approval: "ConcertinaXL" - 30-button Jeffries-style C/G Anglo Concertina for the iPad Website: http://www.tradlessons.com/ConcertinaXL.html Going out with $0.99 price for the first few weeks... Here are some screen shots of the app at the full 1024x768 pixel iPad resolution: Main screen: Note guide (push): Note guide (pull): While playing: Now available only for the iPad on the iTunes App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/concertinaxl-30-button-c-g/id366616314?mt=8 Edited April 13, 2010 by eskin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barnert Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Submitted to Apple tonight for approval: "ConcertinaXL" - 30-button Jeffries-style C/G Anglo Concertina for the iPad Website: http://www.tradlessons.com/ConcertinaXL.html This looks great! Can the Hayden 46 be far behind? However, from the web site: The Anglo concertina is diatonic, meaning the instrument plays a different note for each button depending on whether you are pushing or pulling on the bellows. That's not really what "diatonic" means. It means it's arranged to play in traditionally shaped scales (whole steps and half steps in the right places) in one or two keys, rather than equal access to the notes of any key (which would be "chromatic"). It happens that the two generally run hand-in-hand, that instruments that play different notes on push/pull are diatonic and vice versa, which led to the well-established confusion in terminology. Similarly [opening can of worms], I once heard someone leading a music workshop say that a "modal" tune was one that only had two chords (I and VII, that is, D and C, G and F, or A and G). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Eskin Posted April 16, 2010 Author Share Posted April 16, 2010 Diatonic just means that there are different notes on push vs. pull of the bellows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ransom Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Diatonic just means that there are different notes on push vs. pull of the bellows. No, diatonic means that there are both half-steps and whole-steps in the scale. The opposite of diatonic is chromatic-- a note every half-step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barnert Posted April 16, 2010 Share Posted April 16, 2010 Diatonic just means that there are different notes on push vs. pull of the bellows. No, diatonic means that there are both half-steps and whole-steps in the scale. The opposite of diatonic is chromatic-- a note every half-step. Actually, not only are there both half-steps and whole-steps in the diatonic scale, but they are distributed as a run of three whole steps and a run of two whole steps separated from each other by half steps. Depending where in the sequence you start, you get major, minor, or the other modes. But the concept of it meaning different notes on push and pull is a misunderstanding. Or, in other words, diatonic |ˌdīəˈtänik|adjective Music (of a scale, interval, etc.) involving only notes proper to the prevailing key without chromatic alteration. • (of a melody or harmony) constructed from such a scale. ORIGIN early 17th cent. (denoting a tetrachord divided into two tones and a lower semitone, or ancient Greek music based on this): from French diatonique, or via late Latin from Greek diatonikos ‘at intervals of a tone,’ from dia ‘through’ + tonos ‘tone.’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Reid Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Diatonic just means that there are different notes on push vs. pull of the bellows. I believe the correct term for "different notes on push vs. pull" is bisonoric -- as opposed to unisonoric, meaning the same note. -- Michael (Who's happy to remember something from the old rec.music.makers.squeezebox newsgroup.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieppe Posted May 17, 2010 Share Posted May 17, 2010 Diatonic just means that there are different notes on push vs. pull of the bellows. No, diatonic means that there are both half-steps and whole-steps in the scale. The opposite of diatonic is chromatic-- a note every half-step. I am very fond of E-Sharp! Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ransom Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 (edited) Diatonic just means that there are different notes on push vs. pull of the bellows. No, diatonic means that there are both half-steps and whole-steps in the scale. The opposite of diatonic is chromatic-- a note every half-step. I am very fond of E-Sharp! Patrick One of those notes that became a lot more useful with the advent of equal temperament. =) Nowadays it blends nicely with C-flat. Edit: hold that... it's actually best with the elusive C *double flat*-- an endangered species even at its peak. Edited May 18, 2010 by Ransom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikefule Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Definitely, "diatonic" refers to a type of scale. e.g. a harmonica is diatonic because it has all the notes of one scale, and no extras. A melodeon is diatonic because each row has all the notes of a single scale and no extras. It is often the case that diatonic instruments have a push pull/blow suck layout. This is because they share a common evolution. The single row melodeon is basically a pump action harmonica. The two row melodeon is two singe rows grafted together. The German concertina was a melodeon cut in half and then with each half of the key board at a different end of the bellows. The Anglo is the same idea, but extended to be almost but not quite chromatic. Bisonoric refers to the fact that you get two sounds from one key/button/air hole. This is the push pull layout often found on diatonic instruments, but it is not what diatonic means. Strictly, the 30 button Anglo is not a diatonic instrument, but an instrument with two diatonic rows, and an additional row of accidentals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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