Dave Rogers

I have heard a (possibly apocryphal) story that the tune has migrated to Ireland and, with a different set of words, been "re-imagined" as "Shores of Erin".

I expect that's down to all those 1-row melodeons they seem so fond of?

Looks as though that was "English Miscellany": http://www.englishmiscellany.com/events.html I've not come across them before, but there can't be many sides attempting so many different styles of dancing! Were they good?

Sorry, I've just noticed that Michael Sam Wild mentioned earlier about Kimber being taught by his father!

Kimber appears to have learnt concertina from his father - Dan Worrall, referencing Neil Wayne, says: "He played for a rural Morris tradition that was in serious decline, where the number of all musicians on all instruments was small. In the late nineteenth century, only two other concertina players besides Kimber and his father (William Kimber, Senior) are known to have played for Morris in the southern Midlands. http://www.angloconcertina.org/files/Kimber_for_website.pdf

According to Roger Digby (27/10/2005 on this forum): "the concertina is now back in Headington with Julie Kimber-Nickelson (William’s grand-daughter)." http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=2976&st=0

No, not quite - the English concertina on "Leviathan" is played by Alf Edwards. More about Alf's contribution to the folk revival here: http://www.concertina.com/eydmann/folk-music-revival/

There's good news and bad news: The good news is that I did record it when it was shown on BBC4. The show was "Steeleye Span at Penshurst Place", originally screened in 1974. John Watcham and the Albions perform Upton Stick at approx. 18 minutes through the half-hour programme. The bad news is that it's recorded on a DVD-RAM disc, which won't play in most DVD players or computers. My only excuse is that I plumped for a DVD-RAM machine so that I could edit what I'd recorded (primarily removing the ads from C4 films). If you have a player that can handle the format, Steve, you're welcome to borrow the disc. Alternatively, if anyone knows of a techy solution, then please let me know!

I think I may have recorded this at the time - I'll 'ave a look later...

Hi Steve - The only videos I know of are the two on YouTube that feature, respectively, the album covers for "Rattlebone & Ploughjack" and "The Electric Muse", but nothing that shows any live action. BTW, I've recently joined Black Dog Molly as a musician, so I may be meeting you in the flesh if you're at the Churnet Valley Railway gig on 25/9/11 (I'll unfortunately be missing the upcoming Powderkegs weekend of dance).

Isn't it the standard Adderbury version (certainly that's what they're dancing), but with the pipes playing a slightly different "B" to the other instruments?

We'll just have to hope that Ashley Hutchings doesn't threaten to sue.

Thanks, LDT - Several generations of my paternal grandmother's family (Garrards) came from Prittlewell, so I must learn this to add to my on-going "Family Album" recording project!

...very briefly, in the last installment of "The Crimson Petal & The White" on BBC2 last night at 9pm (or on the iPlayer [uK only] at 11:17 in, if you missed it). I'm no expert at concertina identification and all I can say is that it was wooden-ended! You don't actually hear it playing, by the way.

I thought Chris Timson sounded a little unsure: "true enough, but then if concertinas did go to sea"