Ptarmigan Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 'Leaving the Glen'. . A fine Scottish March, learned from the playing of the late, great James F. Dickie, of New Deer. The full title is The Duke of Fife's Piper leaving the Glen & it was composed by J. Scott Skinner. Played on English Concertina, Fiddle, Tenor Guitar, Tenor Banjo & Bodhran. Lockdown Video #719 Cheers, Dick 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Hare Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 (edited) Any ABC code for this one? I looked for both the full and abbreviated title, and neither the Traditional Tune Archive or the Session delivered the goods. Is it the same as 'The Duke Of Fife's Welcome To Deeside' (which sounds a bit similar to my tin ear?)... Ta... Edited May 2 by Roger Hare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted May 4 Author Share Posted May 4 On 5/2/2024 at 8:58 AM, Roger Hare said: Any ABC code for this one? I looked for both the full and abbreviated title, and neither the Traditional Tune Archive or the Session delivered the goods. Is it the same as 'The Duke Of Fife's Welcome To Deeside' (which sounds a bit similar to my tin ear?)... Ta... Hi, No : The Duke Of Fife's Welcome To Deeside is a completely different tune. I didn't actually find any written music or ABCs for this one, but then that's the benefit of learning tunes by ear. 🙂 Cheers, Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barnert Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) On 5/2/2024 at 3:58 AM, Roger Hare said: Any ABC code for this one? 3 hours ago, Ptarmigan said: I didn't actually find any written music or ABCs for this one, but then that's the benefit of learning tunes by ear. 🙂 OK, here’s what I’ve got, just taking dictation from Dick’s video, above. There are some subtle differences in what he plays in some of the repeats, so I had to make some choices in notating it (see my introductory note in Alan Day’s Anglo Tutor from 20 years ago) and I deliberately omitted the ornaments/grace notes, which also differ on the repeats. You can add them to your playing as you see (hear) fit. [See corrected version six posts below] X:1 T:The Duke of Fife's Piper Leaving the Glen C:J. Scott Skinner M:6/8 K:A P:A E3| A3 A3 | A3A3 | c2BA2B | c3A2B | c3 c3 | c3c3 | d2cd2e | c3A3 | f2ed2f | e3c3 | c2BA2B | c3A3 | A2Bc2f | e3c3 | B6 | A3 :| P:B |:e2d|c3e3 | a3-a2e | f2ed2f | e3c3 | d2cd2f | e2ca2A | c3B3 | B3e2d | c3e3 | a3-a2e | f2ed2f | e3c3 | A2Bc2f | e2ca2c | B6 | A3 :| Go nuts. Edited May 4 by David Barnert 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted May 4 Author Share Posted May 4 11 minutes ago, David Barnert said: deliberately omitted the ornaments/grace notes, which also differ on the repeats. You can add them to your playing as you see (hear) fit. Well done David. I'm afraid I don't do ABCs so have no way of checking this, but I'm sure it's fine. As for the ornaments/grace notes, yes, that's the beauty of traditional music, for we all try & play our tunes a little differently each time round. Having said that my ornaments & variations are rather modest, compared to the mighty playing of James F Dickie & J. Scott Skinner. 🙂 Cheers, Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barnert Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 9 minutes ago, Ptarmigan said: I'm afraid I don't do ABCs so have no way of checking this, but I'm sure it's fine. Sorry. Click here to see it in traditional notation on @Michael Eskin’s abc tool. I’m running low on allowable attachment space here, so I’d rather not paste in the graphic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgx Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) Thanks very much for the transcription David Transposed to a more GD Anglo friendly key ... .mscz file available Edited May 4 by xgx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted May 4 Author Share Posted May 4 1 hour ago, David Barnert said: Sorry. Click here to see it in traditional notation on @Michael Eskin’s abc tool. I’m running low on allowable attachment space here, so I’d rather not paste in the graphic. Yes, that's the bones of it. The only change I would make, would be to alter that bar near the end of each part, from - A2Bc2f ... to A2cd2f. 🙂 Cheers, Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted May 4 Author Share Posted May 4 5 minutes ago, xgx said: Transposed to a more GD Anglo friendly key ... 😳 Changing the key of the Master's work! 🙄 ... sacrilegious! .. Poor James will be spinning in his grave! 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barnert Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 13 minutes ago, Ptarmigan said: The only change I would make, would be to alter that bar near the end of each part, from - A2Bc2f ... to A2cd2f. 🙂 Yes, of course. In both the A and B parts. So here’s the corrected abc: X:1 T:The Duke of Fife's Piper Leaving the Glen C:J. Scott Skinner M:6/8 K:A P:A E3| A3 A3 | A3A3 | c2BA2B | c3A2B | c3 c3 | c3c3 | d2cd2e | c3A3 | f2ed2f | e3c3 | c2BA2B | c3A3 | A2Bd2f | e3c3 | B6 | A3 :| P:B |:e2d|c3e3 | a3-a2e | f2ed2f | e3c3 | d2cd2f | e2ca2A | c3B3 | B3e2d | c3e3 | a3-a2e | f2ed2f | e3c3 | A2Bd2f | e2ca2c | B6 | A3 :| And here’s the link to the notation. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgx Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 13 minutes ago, Ptarmigan said: 😳 Changing the key of the Master's work! 🙄 ... sacrilegious! .. Poor James will be spinning in his grave! 😀 That's me consigned to the other place ... at least I'll know folks there 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barnert Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 I also wouldn’t be surprised if it’s properly notated in a duple meter (4/4, 2/4 or 2/2) with the “swing” understood but not notated. X:2 T:The Duke of Fife's Piper Leaving the Glen C:J. Scott Skinner M:C K:A P:A E2| A2A2 A2A2 | cBAB c2AB | c2c2 c2c2 | dcde c2A2 | fedf e2c2 | cBAB c2A2 | ABdf e2c2 | B4 A2 :| P:B |:ed|c2e2 a3e | fedf e2c2 | dcdf ecaA | c2B2 B2ed | c2e2 a3e | fedf e2c2 | ABdf ecac | B4 A2 :| And the notation link. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgx Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 20 minutes ago, David Barnert said: Yes, of course. In both the A and B parts. So here’s the corrected abc: X:1 T:The Duke of Fife's Piper Leaving the Glen C:J. Scott Skinner M:6/8 K:A P:A E3| A3 A3 | A3A3 | c2BA2B | c3A2B | c3 c3 | c3c3 | d2cd2e | c3A3 | f2ed2f | e3c3 | c2BA2B | c3A3 | A2Bd2f | e3c3 | B6 | A3 :| P:B |:e2d|c3e3 | a3-a2e | f2ed2f | e3c3 | d2cd2f | e2ca2A | c3B3 | B3e2d | c3e3 | a3-a2e | f2ed2f | e3c3 | A2Bd2f | e2ca2c | B6 | A3 :| And here’s the link to the notation. it's A2 c d2f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgx Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 Amended 'G' version Leaving_the_Glen.pdf Leaving_the_Glen.mscz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Barnert Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) 11 minutes ago, xgx said: it's A2 c d2f He may have written “c” but he plays B. I just listened at half speed and hear a B clearly. All eight times. On all the instruments but the Bodhran. Edited May 4 by David Barnert Added the last sentence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Wild Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 As The Duke Of Fife's Welcome To Deeside was mentioned near the start of this thread, here is a PDF of both tunes in case anyone wants a set. Duke of fife's set.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted May 4 Author Share Posted May 4 (edited) On 5/4/2024 at 12:30 PM, xgx said: That's me consigned to the other place ... at least I'll know folks there 😂 To be honest, one of the reasons I moved away from Anglo to English, was so that I could play all those lovely Slow Airs, Planxtys & Strathspeys that I enjoy so much & also be able to play them in any key. As with so many things though, I had to compromise, because in the move I sadly lost the ability to play flowing Reels, but as I already play them on the Fiddle anyway, I felt it was worth it. 🙂 Cheers, Dick Edited May 5 by Ptarmigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Hare Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 (edited) Thanks one and all! Now I can see/hear the ABC for the two tunes, the difference is clear! I tend to listen to these video/audio clips first thing in the morning, before I've 'got my ear in' and sometimes find it difficult to spot the difference(s). Bad habit... Two great tunes though... Edited May 5 by Roger Hare 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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