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hi Don, I'm just down in devon, so is there any chance I can come up to you and have a play on it.......purely in the interest of scientific research!......

geoff et al, do you sometimes find that you'll make a set of pipes that turn out to be 'magic', and you've done nothing different than the last twenty you made..... we certainly used to find this with manufacturing surfboards.......out of the blue something special would appear with no real rhyme or reason. I'm sure this is the same with concertinas, the Boyd 'hype as bw77 said is good marketing and nothing more.....a hundred years of rumour and exaggeration( though something must have started the rumour)....yet I'm still sucked in by it and would love to have one!!!!!........ It would be nice to hear Rob's (conzertino) opinion as he has had a wheatstone boyd for a long time and has owned alot of model 22 concertinas.(But its only 1 boyd so if its good it could be a lucky one) we do need to get all the good metal trebles together and play and compare them......

can we have a photo of your lachenal new model aswell please Jay? Is the wheatstone just a louder instrument or Are there other differences when playing? Did you buy the lachenal boyd from a chap (chilton) in france? I love the romanticism of the idea that the Boyds are better instruments but I've only every played one....... and that was a lachenal though it did have a wim wakker rivetted action in it and a great set of new bellows made by him aswell. It played really well but I don't recall it being particularly loud........ Perhaps a meeting needs to be arranged for metal ended treble concertinas only from the late 19th and early 20 th century....... possibly in devon!!!

I would like a wooden ended tenor or baritone treble english concertina..... I have a 1915 wheatstone aeola treble with wooden ends or a 1920 ish wheatstone wooden ended baritone to swap , but not much available cash..... all the best, simon

hi barry, I've messaged you...........I think devon is just about the uk !!!

hi robin, i've attempted to pm you.

I've sent you a message..

I'd like to buy an earlyish brass reeded treble...... Not worried if it's concert pitch. Baffles would be good and hence nice and quiet.......so as not to wake the baby....... All the best from Devon, Simon

My experience with printed labels is that they don,t look very good as the contrast isn't,t good enough. This is based on some Wheatstone labels I saw a few years ago.... I,m sure technology has much improved.... But is it possible to produce one now that is identical to an original? If anyone wants to take on this challenge with their tech skills........I,ll happily donate a tenner to the RNLI if one is produced!!

Thank you but I don,t have a printer!!!!!!.......

Does anybody have a George case paper label loitering in a workshop drawer that I could buy? All the best , Simon

Did anyone here buy this?

No sorry.........

Thank you for the several offers I've had over the last week. I'm mulling some of them over............... Just to add a bit more detail........this concertina is a superb instrument it plays beautifully with a bright tone , very responsive reeds and balanced clear chords...... It is not as growly in tone as the model 22 I sold Geoff woof about 5 years ago, but in my opinion it is a better instrument.....or at least a more alround instrument ...it will certainly play very loudly when need be....but it's a bit more refined than Geoff's. The ebony frames are in very good condition as are the metal ends.....it has the metal pointy label. About 18 months ago Mark adey made 7 fold thin all leather bellows for it....the best he makes. With 2 babies I'm not allowed to play it in the house....and I never get out any more....... I've love someone to give this the playing it deserves...... the price is now offers around £2000.........it was too cheap last week !! .....or I'll swap it for a very very good wooden ended instrument.... All the best, Simon

Yes Riki it is a model 24......... More expensive than a 48 key treble aeola in the 1920s...... I,m in Devon England so a USA swap would be tricky.......

Difficult.........but Will try........ It's in very good condition, metal ends, metal pointy Wheatstone label,ebony frames and as new best black leather 7 fold bellows ....in original box..... I would rather swap it than sell it.....preferably a good wooden ended Victorian treble.......

Serial number is 27000 ish........

Lovely loud responsive extended treble 56 key Metal ends New 7 fold soft leather bellows made 18 months ago by mark adey Would like to swap this for something with wooden ends that's on the quieter side Or for sale for 1600 English pounds This is a superb treble , but due to babies and lack of time I don't play it any more

I'd be interested in a quiet Victorian brass or steel Reeded concertina, that won,t wake babies as a trade.........against either of these....

I have 2 wheatstones that aren't being used........ wooden ended 48 key treble aeola ......steel reeds , not much fretwork ,so sounds sweet, restored by dave robertson. metal ended 56 key extended treble .......new 7 fold bellows by mark adey......responsive and potentially loud. both are superb trebles..... ....located in devon ring me on 01271 814609...for more details. all the best simon

due to another impending baby....... 48 key baritone raised metal ends 6 fold bellows concert pitch restored by nigel sture about 5 years ago. the serial number is 22893 which dates it to about 1900, it has a bell shaped fretwork pattern, shallow reed pans and a superb rich, growly sound.Its in very good condition and plays superbly. Its as good a baritone as I've ever played....(jon loomes,from the music room played it recently and loved it) I'm online very infrequently these days(due to a new job and a 2 year old) so it would be best to give me a ring my number is 01271 814609 the concertina is in devon and i'd like 2500 pounds for it. all the best simon

hey ceemonster, I've pmed you...!

ed , I've pmed you.

the wakker definitely sounded more 'accordiony'......however your wheatstone treble is as growly as an English concertina is ever going to sound!! I'm sure there is something in how tapered the reeds are....but also the environment the reed is in, i.e the pan layout and depth, type and hardness of wood, type of steel used for reeds etc must all play a role. I'm interested for you to see how a few of your wakker reeds sound in the green mean machine!!! however, shouldn't you be shortening that pipe waiting list now you're back in france ,................not faffing around with concertina reeds!!!.....

Geoff, could you not put one of the wakker reeds and frame into your metal ended wheatstone and see the sound difference, or not as frank did in his experiment?