dpmccabe Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 http://cgi.ebay.com/Wheatstone-Concertina-...1QQcmdZViewItem I've definitely seen this instrument on eBay before. High start value, no PayPal and no feedback. I'll hold off on reporting it until someone can confirm it's a scam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I've definitely seen this instrument on eBay before. High start value, no PayPal and no feedback. I'll hold off on reporting it until someone can confirm it's a scam. Hi I'm thinking along the line that it didn't sell last time for High start value. "Short term memory" and me are the worst two combinations. It's supposed to be the second thing that goes. I don't remember what the first is. It looks familiar and what I recognise are wrist straps on an English from Canada. I think the previous auction closed within the past week. I hope this jogs somebody else to remember more. Thanks Leo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I've definitely seen this instrument on eBay before. High start value, no PayPal and no feedback. I'll hold off on reporting it until someone can confirm it's a scam. You have seen it before: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=190028274315, but that was the original auction by the same vendor and it was unsold, probably because of the factors you mention. It's just been relisted by the same seller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpmccabe Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 I have since asked the seller to take pictures of the readpans for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpmccabe Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 I have since asked the seller to take pictures of the readpans for me. No response yet. I'll post again if I do get a response, but hopefully nobody will be bidding on this anyway due to the ridiculous price tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 (edited) ................... but hopefully nobody will be bidding on this anyway due to the ridiculous price tag. That happened. At 16:30 28 Sept. noticed auction was closed this morning with nobody bidding. Thanks Leo Edited September 28, 2006 by Leo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive Thorne Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Possibly the vendor did not appreciate the difference between an english and an anglo, hence his high expectations on the price? Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpmccabe Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 He did email me and asked for my email address to send me additional pictures. I responding via email but didn't get any pictures before the auction closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 (edited) He's persistent. It shows up again for another period (the third time to close October 8) to the same $4000 minimum starting bid: http://cgi.ebay.com/Wheatstone-Concertina-...1QQcmdZViewItem Thanks Leo Edited September 29, 2006 by Leo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 (edited) Determined again shows up to close 19 October. Same $4000 (US) start price: http://cgi.ebay.com/Wheatstone-Concertina-...1QQcmdZViewItem Edited October 12, 2006 by Leo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooves Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 (edited) I can't imagine anybody actually paying that much for anything sold by an auctioner with zero feedback. That tells me this person has never sold or bought anything at Ebay. I never buy anything from a seller with zero sales, let some other fool loose his hard earned cash. Although I admit you have to start somewhere, a 4K price tag is certainly one giant leap. Edited October 12, 2006 by Hooves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidFR Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 I can't imagine anybody actually paying that much for anything sold by an auctioner with zero feedback. That tells me this person has never sold or bought anything at Ebay. I never buy anything from a seller with zero sales, let some other fool loose his hard earned cash. Although I admit you have to start somewhere, a 4K price tag is certainly one giant leap. Well I think that's not really fair, everyone starts with zero feedback after all; how are you supposed to generate feedback before buying and selling things? Of course, for something with that kind of price tag I'd want some assurance that I was dealing with a legitimate, honest person. I'm not sure that Ebay feedback would really be enough for any large-ticket item like a concertina. The instrument itself looks quite nice, though I think it's more than what the really top Englishes go for. But I could be wrong! I know very little about them. It does look like the seller doesn't know much about concertinas though, given the paucity of information he provides. Maybe he just looked at what top "Wheatstones" were going for and priced this instrument based on the apparent good condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooves Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Well I think that's not really fair, everyone starts with zero feedback after all; how are you supposed to generate feedback before buying and selling things? Yes, you got to start somewhere. But with all the scams going on the Ebay feedback is your only way to filter out possible scams. A person with a 1000 sales could also rip you off, so even that is not always an adequate gauge. My Ebay account got hacked, and the bastard ran an auction under my account to sell "motorcycle parts". I had to talk to an eBay employee on the phone to get my account reactivated. Fortunately, they had caught the auction (they sent me an email asking me to validate my account) and ended it. As for me, no way would I buy something on eBay for 4K. In person perhaps, but not all the way across the world from someone who has no history of selling. I see lots of items go up on eBay for large starting prices. I can't imagine why if an item is worth that much you would choose eBay as the forum to sell it. How did people sell thier instruments before eBay? Ebay is convienent with a broad audience so I can see the usefulness of selling in that forum. But if you got 4K burning a hole in your pocket, and you trust some ad that shows up online, then hey its your money, do what you want with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 (edited) Determined again shows up to close 19 October. Same $4000 (US) start price:http://cgi.ebay.com/Wheatstone-Concertina-...1QQcmdZViewItem Ended again today (19 Oct.) No bids. Wanna bet it shows up again????? Maybe he'll lower his/her price a little. This is the 4th time since early Sept. Thanks Leo Edited October 19, 2006 by Leo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm clapp Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Determined again shows up to close 19 October. Same $4000 (US) start price: http://cgi.ebay.com/Wheatstone-Concertina-...1QQcmdZViewItem Ended again today (19 Oct.) No bids. Wanna bet it shows up again????? Maybe he'll lower his/her price a little. This is the 4th time since early Sept. Thanks Leo No, he'll probably increase his start price to cover his listing fees.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpmccabe Posted October 20, 2006 Author Share Posted October 20, 2006 Someone should volunteer to buy it so that we can get back to our daily lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Old Leaky Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 Don't get hung up on feedback scores on eBay. Yes, everyone starts with zero but positive feedback ratings can be quickly built up by buying/selling daft little things like biros, cotton buds, razor blades etc. That's how genuine people do it, as well as the scamsters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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