SteveS Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 I see that Wheatstone Aeola tenor-treble serial number 28005 sold at auction the other day for £2200 (plus buyers premium). Anyone on this forum win it? Looked to be in really nice condition. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Drinkwater Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 I see that Wheatstone Aeola tenor-treble serial number 28005 sold at auction the other day for £2200 (plus buyers premium). Anyone on this forum win it? Looked to be in really nice condition. Steve What auction? Where? Can you be more precise, Steve? Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 I see that Wheatstone Aeola tenor-treble serial number 28005 sold at auction the other day for £2200 (plus buyers premium). It'd be interesting to know a little more about this. e.g. How much would the "buyer's premium" have been? How much needed to be spent on it, to bring it up to standard? I'd especially like to know because you see, I own: Wheatstone Aeola tenor-treble serial number 28004 Cheers Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveS Posted September 22, 2009 Author Share Posted September 22, 2009 I dont have details of the exact condition - I only ever saw photos of it sent to me via email. But from the photos it looked to be in pretty good condition. I guess the minimum of all usual repairs would need to be done to bring it up playing standard. Buyer's premium was 15% plus VAT I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 I dont have details of the exact condition - I only ever saw photos of it sent to me via email.But from the photos it looked to be in pretty good condition. I guess the minimum of all usual repairs would need to be done to bring it up playing standard. Buyer's premium was 15% plus VAT I believe. Hmmm My maths isn't great, but would the 15% + VAT come to about £300? Then, would you possibly be talking about £200 for restoration work? This would give the buyer a fine instrument for around £2,700, which seems pretty reasonable to me. N.B. I paid £2,600 for mine, 9 months ago. Cheers Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Looking at the Ledger I see that 28004 was completed on the 31st of January 1919, while the 28005 wasn't completed until the 7th of February 1919. However, I see that they were not identical. They both have {what looks like} "56 Keys 7 1/4 + the letters S.V. & W.S." However, 28004 has "Octs Tenor Black" in front, while 28005 has "N.P. Octs" Can someone please explain what the difference is? Ta Cheers Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindizzy Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 Looking at the Ledger I see that 28004 was completed on the 31st of January 1919, while the 28005 wasn't completed until the 7th of February 1919. However, I see that they were not identical. They both have {what looks like} "56 Keys 7 1/4 + the letters S.V. & W.S." However, 28004 has "Octs Tenor Black" in front, while 28005 has "N.P. Octs" Can someone please explain what the difference is? Ta Cheers Dick NP - Nickel plate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveS Posted September 22, 2009 Author Share Posted September 22, 2009 (edited) I dont have details of the exact condition - I only ever saw photos of it sent to me via email.But from the photos it looked to be in pretty good condition. I guess the minimum of all usual repairs would need to be done to bring it up playing standard. Buyer's premium was 15% plus VAT I believe. Hmmm My maths isn't great, but would the 15% + VAT come to about £300? Then, would you possibly be talking about £200 for restoration work? This would give the buyer a fine instrument for around £2,700, which seems pretty reasonable to me. N.B. I paid £2,600 for mine, 9 months ago. Cheers Dick Dick A retune alone would more likely be around £400 and then with repadding and revalving my guess would be closer to £600. I fancied this box myself, but having just recently acquired a really nice baritone (My latest squeeze) I couldn't really justify another 'tina so soon Steve Edited September 22, 2009 by SteveS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 NP - Nickel plate? Thanks Dizzy .... I should have guessed as much! Cheers Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 DickA retune alone would more likely be around £400 and then with repadding and revalving my guess would be closer to £600. I fancied this box myself, but having just recently acquired a really nice baritone (My latest squeeze) I couldn't really justify another 'tina so soon Steve Hey Steve, I bet your glad they didn't both come up at the same time? I've a real soft spot for my Baritone, but 28005 is a real beauty too, as is your own Baritone, so I'm very glad I didn't have to choose between them! Cheers Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveS Posted September 22, 2009 Author Share Posted September 22, 2009 Hey Steve, I bet your glad they didn't both come up at the same time? I've a real soft spot for my Baritone, but 28005 is a real beauty too, as is your own Baritone, so I'm very glad I didn't have to choose between them! Cheers Dick Dick I've actually got an Aeola TT being restored right now - it's been there some time so not clear yet when it'll be ready. This box was a wreak, with smashed-in ends, but will be a beauty once restored - ebony ends, brass reeds, 56 keys - looking forward to getting it back - main use is for song accompaniment. The danger is I'll enjoy the baritone too much... And yes, the choice would have been difficult, but I'd have chosen the baritone, with which i chuffed to bits. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 DickI've actually got an Aeola TT being restored right now - it's been there some time so not clear yet when it'll be ready. This box was a wreak, with smashed-in ends, but will be a beauty once restored - ebony ends, brass reeds, 56 keys - looking forward to getting it back - main use is for song accompaniment. The danger is I'll enjoy the baritone too much... And yes, the choice would have been difficult, but I'd have chosen the baritone, with which i chuffed to bits. Steve Yeah Steve, ... me too. After all, I'm sure there are a lot more TTs out there, than Baritones. Brass Reeds eh ... hmmmmm, I hope we'll get a chance to hear that one in action? Cheers Dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveS Posted September 22, 2009 Author Share Posted September 22, 2009 Brass Reeds eh ... hmmmmm, I hope we'll get a chance to hear that one in action? Dick Marketed as non-corrosive reeds, brass reeds were offered as an option by Wheatstone on instruments that were going into damp or tropical climates. These reeds were of top quality on a par with steel reeds, as one would have expected if paying £26 for a box in 1918, and play as well as steel reeds. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 (edited) Dick Marketed as non-corrosive reeds, brass reeds were offered as an option by Wheatstone on instruments that were going into damp or tropical climates. These reeds were of top quality on a par with steel reeds, as one would have expected if paying £26 for a box in 1918, and play as well as steel reeds. Steve I have no doubt Steve. I have a little treble with Brass Reeds myself & I have a hunch that Brass Reeds actually blend more naturally with the human voice, making those instruments a much better choice for song accompaniment. Incidentally, do you yourself, live in a damp or tropical climate? .... wet rot, rising damp etc etc I live in Ireland ...... need I say more! Cheers Dick Edited September 23, 2009 by Ptarmigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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