DaveRo
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What I would want to know before considering Mobilesheets is whether the file formats are proprietary. What if the app becomes unavailable? What if it ceases to be maintained and I cannot run it on the latest version of my OS? How could the music files be recovered? Would it matter if they were not? Can I maintain backups that are usable without the app?
Schofield's First Law of Computing: you should never put data into a program unless you can see exactly how to get it out.
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On 6/29/2024 at 8:40 PM, Michael Eskin said:
The offline-use enabled PWA (Progressive Web Application) version of the tool just isn’t working out well enough to allow me to promote it to being a mainstream release.
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It's working for offline use on Safari on iOS as well as Chrome on desktops. I hear it's also working on Chrome on Android and Linux. Firefox seems possibly problematic....
You can find the experimental PWA version here:
https://michaeleskin.com/abctools_pwa/abctools.htmlWorks fine in Firefox on both desktop and Android.
This version creates a pre-defined cache of files (html, css, javascript, images etc) when online that it can use when offline. You can see this cache if you type
about:serviceworkers
into the URL bar and search for 'eskin' *
If you suspect problems you can use that page to deregister the service worker which clears the cache.
So there are now two caches in your browser † - the old 'browser cache' or 'html cache' which caches (some) documents to speed up browsing, and which you might clear occasionally depending on your settings, and this 'app cache' or 'service worker cache' which should persist.
*The command in chrome is:
chrome://serviceworker-internals/
† Actually, there are three: there's a forward-backward cache too!
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9 hours ago, Ericaland said:
I'm a little nervous that having to arrange things on my own could end up being too steep of an initial learning curve.
I wouldn't worry about a steep learning curve. I took up a Hayden (a Stagi 46) at age 70 having almost no practical musical background. It's easy to play tunes, and it's easy to play chords. I've never tried any other system so that might be true of lots of them.
I swapped to a secondhand Peacock - 42 buttons. I look online for the scores of tunes which have a melody and accompaniment (2-part or 2-voice ABC) and which fit within the compass if my 42 buttons. Sometimes I have to change the key (easy with software) which can result in it being (slightly) less easy to play. Sometimes I have to alter it to fit - find an alternative note or leave it out altogether. Often, as I'm learning it, I change odd notes of the accompaniment because they sound better or are easier to finger. 'Arranging' sounds a rather grand word for that, but I suppose that's what I'm doing.
I've never played an Elise but, having gone from 46 buttons to 42, I can't imagine having only 34. But it depends what music you end up wanting to play - which in my case was not what I started on. I rarely play left-hand chord accompaniments, for example. (On my Stagi, and even more on the Peacock, the left hand can easily drown out the melody.)
So, buy an Elise - it'll be fun - but if you get on with it you'll quickly want something bigger - and much more expensive.
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The layout adjusts to the device width:
>1200px there is an icon and a name
>980 and <1200 there is a name
<980 there is just an icon
You're likely to see the last of those on a mobile device.
* In desktop Firefox you can use Tools>Browser tools>Responsive design mode to change the display size: drag the right edge to left and right and see how the layout changes. There's probably something similar in Chrome. Just changing the window size should show it too.
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On this tablet I get icons in portrait orientation, and names in landscape.
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Bob: You already had my updated version of 1.3.8.7. Nothing has changed since you were testing it a few weeks back. My changes are not in the github version - I can't change those.
I'll answer your other questions by PM.
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A couple of us have been working on getting EasyABC to play multi-voice selections - i.e. a part of the tune selected by dragging the mouse across the score. This might be of interest to some of you, particularly if you play a duet concertina.
The source code for EasyABC on github is currently at version 1.3.8.7
https://github.com/jwdj/EasyABC
That has not been 'released' (in the usual meaning of the word) but I see that snapshots of 1.3.8.7 have been made available on Apple Macs.
The most recent change fixed a bug which was preventing fluidsynth working reliably on 64bit machines. (Fluidsnth had never worked for me on Linux.)
https://github.com/jwdj/EasyABC/issues/87
On 4th March that was incorporated in 1.3.8.7 so any snapshot taken after that will incorporate it.
You can download all the code as a zip file with the green button. There is a text file describing how to install and run it in Windows, though it may not be up to date.
The problem I set out to solve is described in the image and sound file in my post here:
https://github.com/jwdj/EasyABC/issues/77#issue-1856792681
I fixed that, and you can see multi-voice selection working in the later post here:
https://github.com/jwdj/EasyABC/issues/77#issuecomment-1773845899
So job done. Well, no. Over the next few months people found cases where it didn't work. My thanks to markblinkhorn for discovering that it wouldn't play chords - and for fixing that:
https://github.com/jwdj/EasyABC/issues/90
And I added the ability to select passages from multiple lines. There is a short video of that in operation in this post:
https://github.com/jwdj/EasyABC/issues/91#issuecomment-2025059857
That feature is useful whether it's a single- or multi-voice tune.
Thanks also to @RWL for discovering several odd effects involving repeats and alternate endings, which are unexplained but have work-rounds.
All that works well-enough on Linux and Windows 10 (I do not have a Mac) so I'm posting here to invite you to try it if you know how to run Python. (Sorry, no Windows installer.) If you want to try it PM me and I'll send you a link to the dozen python files which you substitute for the ones on github. Those files also allow EasyABC to work under Python up to 3.10 and includes changes to the settings menus required by newer versions of python/wx-python.
If you are not a member of c.net, you can contact me at the support email address here.
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I've mentioned before that I see these public messages on the RSS feed. Not many - about once every couple of months. With one exception the poster obviously thought they were sending a PM. Another one today - a long personal message - prompts me to suggest that the feature be removed.
This thread on the Invision Community duscusses it. One poster says "...I've seen email addresses, telephone numbers, personal enquiries, all posted publicly via status updates. People don't take the time to read descriptions [that says it's public] they see a field on a profile and proceed to use it.
I disable status updates on every installation. I don't see the point of the feature..."
https://invisioncommunity.com/forums/topic/446179-status-update/
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On 2/21/2024 at 9:41 PM, Leah Velleman said:
Think of it like a very old-fashioned website, but you get it on a CD and not over the internet.
This immediately reminded me of the Peter Bellamy CD set "Wake the Vaulted Echoes" which is just like that. I don't think there is any video, but the sound files are RealAudio format!
On 2/21/2024 at 7:53 PM, Leah Velleman said:But it feels weird that resources like this are becoming unavailable as ... file formats change.
This is a well known story in the UK, but maybe not beyond.
https://timharford.com/2023/11/cautionary-tales-laser-versus-parchment-doomsday-for-the-disc/
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Perhaps something is clearing your cookies. Some privacy addon or app? Is it a mobile device?
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For the past few years many browsers will not use the file:/// protocol, which means they cannot display a website on a local disk. Firefox is one. Is that what the problem is?
There are several solutions - there may be a configuration switch, or use a different browser. You could also copy it to a webserver.
Edit: I think that's wrong, I was thinking of browsers on mobile devices where I had this problem. I think PC browsers still allow file:///
Edit 2: It is html and does run in a browser - see the comments at the bottom of here.
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20 hours ago, David in Aust said:
I have fallen in love with the musical piece Comptine d'Un Autre Été, and wonder how this could sound with this instrument ?
8 hours ago, Oberon said:...you should also grab a concertina at some point...
Perhaps a duet concertina?
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39 minutes ago, Luke Hillman said:
...unfortunately without following any established conventions...
Indeed, Expecially as the pause icon is a 'media control symbol', understood to mean 'click or tap me to stop the video/sound'.
Quote... the Pause symbol having reportedly been invented at Ampex during that decade for use on reel-to-reel audio recorder controls, due to the difficulty of translating the word "pause" into some languages used in foreign markets.
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By 'background' I mean the tab is not in the foreground - you can't see it. Either it was opened in the background, or another tab was opened over it in the foreground. (You can configure new tabs from links to open in either; I'm not sure what the default is now.)
A background tab can be active or inactive, depending what it's doing and other factors - eg memory. Here on Firefox for Android tabs can quickly become inactive.
The community site says
"When you have automatic polling turned on and the tab has been inactive for a while it shows the paused icon."
"Yes, the icon indicates that the page is no longer polling for new notifications."
If not push alerts, what are these notifications?
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So this happens if
- you have push notifications on in your c.net account settings (I don't)
- you have allowed notifications for c.net in the browser (I haven't)
- you background the tab(s)
Is that right?
That screenshot on the community site is not Firefox, so presumably any browser.
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If you right-click on that tab, is there a relevant option - eg Play - which toggles it?
If not, can you play something in that tab - eg a YT video - and see if that makes any tab controls operable.
You have 2 c.net tabs on your screenshot. What's the difference between them? Is the 'Big list' one bookmarked? Pinned? Cached? Try unpinning, or clearing the browser cache.
Failing all that what OS and Fx version?
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6 hours ago, Don Taylor said:
It looks like this version from the Session is (just) playable on an Elise
I play the 2-voice version - #5 on that page - on my Peacock (42 buttons). Maybe the Dm version of that is playable, or the left hand can be adapted to fit. (I often have to do that.)
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A piece of board and four dowels:
It expands a few millimetres after lowering it in.
Always available to pick up and play.
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Yes, I was only referring to Stagi-made ones and their evolving branding. I'd call yours a 'genuine' Bastari.
Here's the description of that wiki photo
QuoteA Hayden type duet concertina with 46 button keys. Bastari brand(sold as Stagi brand in foreign countries), made in Italy. Right hand. This photo was taken at TANIGUCHI GAKKI, or Taniguchi Musical Instruments Store, Ochanomzu, Tokyo.
I suspect that (the branding) is inaccurate.
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9 hours ago, Ubizmo said:
...sheet of perforated metal...
Like on this Hayden?
As you see that had 'Stagi' cut into the fretwork (I bought it 2 years ago). Earlier ones had 'Bastari' there see picture on wikipedia and Stagi in huge white letters on the side.
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1 hour ago, Ubizmo said:
...branded "Concertine Italia", not Stagi...
Perhaps they've taken David's advice here:
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As well as Das Neue Museum Biel (the Getty photo) there is one of his concertinas in the Musee Imaginaire Suisse (which I think is in Zurich but I'm not sure)
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This piece (in German) has more about that:
[Depths of a Clown: The Man Who Made Hitler Laugh Grock was the greatest Swiss artist of his time - and a favorite of the Nazis. Now his estate is going to the museum. How should we remember him?]
A concertina-related extract (Google translate):
QuoteRaymond Naef allows critical questions. At the same time, it is important to him that his great uncle is remembered as a great artist. In his basement he unpacks a box containing a large bass concertina. This somewhat clumsy instrument comes from England and, unlike the hand organ*, has no preset chords. “Many people could play the violin or saxophone,” says Naef. “But the concertina was Grock’s favorite instrument. He mastered it.” Naef picks up the concertina and plays a little Russian melody. A melody without which Naef would not have acquired the instrument. After the clown's death, Grock's sister Cécile decided that only those who could play the instrument should have the instrument.
* Handorgel
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This video shows Grock at age 70 playing a concertina - at about 18mins:
(link to video removed - see next post)
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STAGI baritone
in General Concertina Discussion
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Take a look at thus thread