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  1. 6 hours ago, David Barnert said:

    I’m assuming it doesn’t extend beyond the range of a 46

    It might be beyond the range of your bellows!


    I've been inspired by Didie's playing - especially Roslin Castle. When I got my Peacock Hayden he kindly sent me the score to The Water is Wide. It has long slurred phrases and I keep running out of air from my merely 6-fold bellows.


    4 hours ago, David Barnert said:

    you could “comment out” the unwanted voices


    Commenting out a section would make it disappear from the staff notation, and I want to play the bass line, say, while seeing how that relates to the melody line above it. The transpose trick works nicely (I've built an alpha version of an addon) but I need to be sure I'm not hitting the server too hard. AFAICS I'm not - it seems to fetch each note once and then remember it doesn't exist. But it still generates a console log warning for each note 'played'.


    Sorry for hi-jacking your thread Michael.

  3. I added a caveat to my earlier post:


    On 2/22/2023 at 12:53 PM, DaveRo said:

    %%MIDI transpose 60


    Edited again to add: Although that works it does generate some network activity - 404s - when it tries to fetch these high notes. Also a ton of warnings. So use sparingly, and preferably don't program it into a tool for release!


    I'll look for a better way.

  4. On 2/18/2023 at 4:17 AM, eskin said:

    My ABC tool doesn't have the ability to play the tunes.

    For now, I suggest you use the following site to play your ABC files:


    That site looks useful. When I find a tune that I might be able to play or arrange (I use the word loosely) for my 42 button Hayden I start by playing it. I often use David Zemsky's Music Scanner app on Android. If I have the ABC I can use EasyABC on a desktop, but I'd like to do it on my Android tablet.


    I'd like to be able to play one voice, or maybe 2 voices out of three. For example, with this tune (which I just randomly selected because it has three voices) how does the melody alone go? How does it sound with melody plus voice 2, or plus voice 3? Maybe I can mash 2 and 3 together - but I always want to hear just the melody first.

    http://www.rudemex.co.uk/library/RM_arrangements/Albert Farmer's Bonfire Tune (3-pt).pdf



    Here's the ABC (it's on the same site)

    %Rude Mechanicals tune library: www.rudemex.co.uk
    %Chords and arrangements by the Rude Mechanicals unless otherwise acknowledged
    T: Albert Farmer's Bonfire Tune
    M:4/4     %Meter
    L:1/8     %
    "D"f2 dB AG F2 |"G"G2 GF G4 |"A"edcA B2 c2 |"D"defd A2 de |"D"f2 d2 A2 F2 |"Em"G2 GF G4 |
    "A"edcA B2 c2 ||1"D"d4 d4 :|2"D"d4- d2 e2 |:"D"f2 fd f2 df |"Em"gefd e4 |"A"gfed cABc |
    "D"defd A4 |"Bm"f2 dB AG F2 |"Em"G2 GF G4 |"A"edcA B2 c2 ||1"D"d4 e4 :|2"D"d2 z2 [F4d4] |]
    d2 AG FE D2 |DCB,A, B,DCB, |A,2 GF G2 E2 |F2 D2 F2 A2 |ABAF D2 A,2 |B,EGB e2 B2 |
    c2 A2 G2 A2 ||1A2 g2 f2 e2 :|2A2 F2 DEFG |:A2 DF Adfa |EGBA GABG |EDCB, A,2 G2 |
    F4 D2 A,2 |B,2 B2 d2 B2 |G2 B2 d2 ef |gfec d2 e2 ||1dAFA GABG :|2fdAF [A,4D4] |]
    D2 F4 D2 |B,2 B4 D2 |C2 E4 A,2 |D2 A,2 D2 A2 |d2 A2 F2 D2 |E2 B,2 E2 D2 |
    A,2 E2 D2 G2 ||1F2 A,2 B,2 C2 :|2F2 A2 A,2 C2 |:D4 A4 |E4 G2 E2 |A,3 G E2 C2 |
    A,2 D2 F4 |D2 F4 D2 |B,2 E4 B,2 |A,2 G2 E2 G2 ||1F4 A,4 :|2A2 F2 [D4A4] |]
         %End of file


    I can add midi commands into the ABC, such as

    %%MIDI program 23

    %%MIDI gchordoff (after a V:n)


    But - and finally the question - I can't find a way of suppressing a voice, short of excising the whole voice section. Does anyone know a command I can add to do it. There isn't a midi program for 'silent' AFAICS.


    My idea is to add buttons to it using an addon which edits the ABC. (That's easier than interfering with its javascript which is all obfuscated.) I can cut sections of ABC out if necessary, and reinsert them, but just adding lines in would be simpler.


    And I could add a button to send the result to Michael's abc tool for transposition.


    Edited: I discovered a solution. The player has a limited range, so can add, e.g.

    %%MIDI transpose 60

    which it cannot play.


    Edited again to add: Although that works it does generate some network activity - 404s - when it tries to fetch these high notes. Also a ton of warnings. So use sparingly, and preferably don't program it into a tool for release.

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  5. If it mostly works I wouldn't risk updating it. Can you can install both in Windows?


    I updated recently from 1.3.7 because it wouldn't play a highlighted section of a tune. I had to edit the code in the end, as I described here


    That feature works now, but doesn't work well on two-stave duet tunes.


    The playing notes are red on mine fwiw.

    Edit: Actually, they're orange.

  6. 18 hours ago, Łukasz Martynowicz said:

    ...binaural recording let you move around the room freely

    Unless I misunderstand binaural recording, the 'dummy head' used for the recording is in a fixed position. The listener will only hear the effect of moving around if the head moved around. Which would be disconcerting if the listener is sitting still.


    The point, surely, of binaural recording is fidelity of the sound heard by a (single) member of the audience. Whether a solo concertina should be recorded 'faithfully' - or whether it would sound 'better' recorded in mono is quite another question. As well as the sound coming out of both ends, on my duet the left is much louder.


    (And it occurs to me that an active sound-cancelling speaker might be an alternative to a baffle to quieten the accompaniment from the point of view - or hearing - of me, the player. I expect it's been tried.)



  7. I started with a Stagi 46 two years ago at age 70 and with no instrumental experience since giving up piano lessons at age 10, and never having touched a concertina. It's easy to play - I liked it. But I had to stop after 9 months because of painful wrists.

    I now have a Peacock which is lighter and has 42 buttons, which are positioned better for me. The fewer buttons limits what I can tackle - tunes go off the ends. I wouldn't recommend starting with an Elise with even fewer buttons.

    I (re?)learned staff notation, but only the treble clef. I find it essential for what I play.  And I seem to have developed a very partial hayden-centric mapping of the dots to the buttons.

    The main problem with starting on a Hayden is trading up. Secondhand instruments are scarce. If you really get into the Hayden system you may need to spend big money in a year or two. My plan was to get a Beaumont, but they're no longer made. Maybe Edward Jay will make a 46- or 52-key 3d-printed one. Maybe.


  8. 9 hours ago, Chris Ghent said:

    ...the pin at the bottom of the button being out of its hole at rest

    I had this problem with my secondhand CC Peacock. The picture shows the pin out of the hole. I fixed it (after emailing CC for advice) by bending the lever - which was difficult with a pair of pliers in each hand: the brass is tough. The geometry is complicated by it being a curved lever (top F#) so the pad doesn't drop 'vertically' on the hole and doesn't always land on exactly same spot, which I think may be one cause of the problem. I expect my tendency, as a beginner, to mis-hit the button and push it sideways also contributes!


    I suspect I'll have to do this again: the button is already slightly higher on the outside, though it doesn't fall over yet.


  9. I remember Leonard Bernstein, in one of his popular TV programmes from the 1960s(?), demonstrating rubato and saying that it means 'stolen' in Italian. Time is stolen from one note and given to another.


    (The programmes are all on YouTube. As are his Norton Lectures given at Harvard if you've got a spare day or two.)

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  10. I've known this tune ever since Ken Burns' documentary about the American Civil War was shown on TV here in the UK. After 11 hours of viewing, it's impossible not to know it!


    When I got my first concertina, a Stagi Hayden 46, I quickly learned the melody and went looking for a 2-part version for the left-hand accompaniment. I found one by the Rude Mechanicals:


    I transposed that to G, messed with it a bit, and set out to learn it. 12 months later, and having swapped the Stagi for a Peacock (which doesn't quite have all the notes) I can play it, but not well or reliably. I still have to watch the score to see where the left hand is going next.


    Here, fwiw, is an attempt, mistakes and all, played into my Android tablet.

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  11. 17 hours ago, Łukasz Martynowicz said:

    Just last week I’ve made some preliminary tests of new printed lever design that allows for curved levers, which are absolutely necessary to solve reed placement and lever routing problem on Haydens.

    Curved how? My Peacock has some curved levers - curved in the horizontal plane (with the buttons vertical) - that is they go around other buttons. Those pads therefore do not drop vertically onto the holes. (I have a problem with one of these.)


    It's not clear from Edward's pics at


    but it looks to me that some levers go over others, so the pads land vertically which I think is better.


    BTW, when I saw Edward's 'sine wave' pattern on the end covers it reminded me of a flat plastic air-vent I had: I could rotate a knob in the middle and close the holes. I wonder if you could build in a similar device - a sliding plate which reduces the holes and muffles the bass?

  12. That's great - so much faster and more responsive.


    On my Android tablet it works perfectly - both in Firefox and Chrome.


    On my wife's iPad in Safari I noticed two glitches:

    - it stops sounding if I leave it (e.g shut the cover) and go back to it. And sometimes when I switch tabs. Probably it unloads. I have to reload it to get it to  play again.

    - double tapping a note zooms it in, which is probably not what you want. I wonder if it can be supressed? But I suppose the piano is not for playing tunes on!


    I see it sets a cookie. Perhaps say why (settings?) in the About box - and whether you collect any data.


    Edited to add: Actually, I think Chrome is lying. It says there's 1 cookie, but when I display cookies - there isn't one.

  13. Reverse chronological order isn't a feature offered by the Invision forum software, and won't be, judging from the developer's comments in their forum (invisioncommunity.com/forums).


    As well as going to the latest unread post in a thread - which is what I do, and I think is the default - you can go to the latest post.

    It does depend on how you read the forum though. Personally I start from the RSS feed - and the latest post there is at the top!


    (But the RSS feed has a major flaw: it doesn't show the name of the poster.)

  14. When I bought an instrument from Canada - I am in the UK - I thought the main risk was it getting stuck in UK customs, or paying the 20%+ tax, or it just going missing. So I arranged the shipping myself. I thought it would be easier for me than the vendor to resolve any delivery problems in the UK as I was party to the contract. I used a UK Parcel Broker who gave me a choice of shippers (UPS, DHL, no-name, ...) at various prices and a choice of insured value. I could choose, after consulting the vendor, whether it was to be collected or dropped off at a collection point. It all went well.

    So when I sold my previous instrument I stipulated the same process. The buyer would have preferred that I arranged shipping, but I did not want to have to resolve problems with customs or delivery in a foreign country whose language I do not speak, with the risk of having to refund if it disappeared. And there were problems, but the buyer sorted them out and - eventually - received the instrument.

    It obviously requires the buyer to trust the seller, to pay for the instrument confident that the seller will release it. And also how keen the seller is to sell it. The advantage to the buyer is in choosing a shipper in which they have confidence.

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