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Hi Myrtle's Cook and thank you so much for taking the time to reply to my post. I'm glad the history of this concertina got you intrigued too - I love a bit of history and a mystery and like you say, I'm fascinated as to what connection this man had to Wheatstone to get what looks like preferential treatment! I wish I could find out the story behind it although all my various googling has turned up nothing so far. Yes, it has a beautiful mellow sound and a great action which is exactly what I was looking for. I'm very picky about having a really fast action otherwise my brain and fingers start getting tied in knots. My other concertina is a metal ended and although has a great sound is very, very loud, My husband is a fabulous singer and with this new concertina I can finally play along without drowning him out!! Thanks so much again xxxxxxx
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It wasn't clear from your original post you were aware of the ledgers so I thought I'd mention the obvious, aware there are gaps but unaware your concertina's origins were in one of those gaps. Thanks Peter - every idea is very much appreciated! I wish I could get to the bottom of this xxx
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Thanks for the welcome! The concertina is definitely a wheatstone as it has the labels in it. I'd just love to know how it came to have the name of the man who commissioned it in the labels too! Louise x
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Unfortunately the serial number records for this period have been lost... I have Number 22695 (which is a fearsome Noisy little beast that I use for Band and session playing, you met this one last year Peter) which I estimate to have been made in 1898. Harry Minting (who I met in the 1970's or '80's) was the last manager at Wheastones, he had made a rough guide to serial numbers and dates... from which I made my estimate. Congrats on your new Concertina Imoncur... and welcome to these forums. Sorry, never heard of Mr Wallace either, Geoff. Hi Geoff and thanks for the warm welcome! Wow, you're isn't too far away from mine. I'd dated mine to around 1898 too! I wish there were more ledgers! My other concertina appears in them and I loved reading about it! x
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Hi Peter, Thanks so much but unfortunately with the serial number 22551, I've dated the concertina to 1898 which sadly isn't covered as far as I can see by the ledgers. I really wish it was! x
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Sorry, hopefully the pictures will be here - still getting my head around working things :-)
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Hi Jim, Thanks for your reply. I've tried to take photos of the labels. Barleycorn concertinas who sold to it me are convinced it's a factory label from Wheatstone. He's said he'd seen Lachenal's with dealers labels but not a Wheatstone. My first thought was that the man labelled it himself but it does look very genuine. Here's the photos and thanks again for your interest
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I wasn't expecting that!
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Ha ha!! Thank you for the warm welcome Louise x
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Hello! I'm a new user on this forum so first off wanted to say hello! I've been playing concertina for about 20 years since the age of about 10! I've just bought a new wooden ended wheatstone concertina - my other concertina is a metal-ended and very loud so wanted something a little quieter for acoustic song accompaniment. However, my new concertina has an interesting history which I'm fascinated by and I would to get to the bottom of it. It has the usual Wheatsone label on one side but a very unusual label on the other side which reads: MADE TO ORDER OF T. WALLACE CHURCH, LANCS. WHEATSTONE & CO. MANUFACTURERS, LONDON. The normal label reads: WHEATSTONE & CO. PATENTEES AND 22551 MANUFACTURERS 20, CONDUIT STREET, LONDON, W I bought the concertina from barleycorn concertinas and have been told that to find a Wheatstone with the name of another person is extremely unusual. I've looked up T Wallace on the 1911 census and found that he was 49, living in Church, Lancashire and is described as a 'dealer and repairer of musical instruments'. However I can find no other trace of him or any connection Wheatstone on the internet. Church in Lancashire is very small place. The population now is under 4000 and it was probably smaller in the 1890's. I just wondered if anyone had come across anything similar or had ever heard of a T Wallace who dealt in concertinas or how he would have managed to get Wheatstone to actually add his name to the label! Thanks so much and I look forward to chatting to you all :-) Louise x
