Bandoneon Core

[m3838]

I looked at bandoneon keyboard chart, where the buttons were color coded depending on the chronology of additions, and (expectantly) relalized that the core bandoneon is 28 button Anglo-German concertina.

The only puzzle is what key is this layout? (push/pull)

LH

------- d3/g2 ----- a3/g3 ------ c4/b3---- e4/d4

e3/a2 ---- g#3/e3 --- b3/a3 --- d4/c#4 --- f34/e4

---b2/e3 ----- #4/e4 ---- a4/g#4 --- d#4/b4 ---- f#3/f3

 

RH

----------- f#4/g4 ------ a4/b4 ----- c5/d5 ------ e5/g5

g#4/a4 ---- b4/c#4 --- d5/e5 ---- g#5/a5 ----- b5/c#6

----d#5/e5 ---- f#5/g#5 --- a5/b5 ---- c#6/e6 ---- g5/d#5

 

It looks to me like A, where the tonic is on the pull. Am I right?

[ocd]

I looked at bandoneon keyboard chart, where the buttons were color coded ...

 

Do you have a link for that chart?

 

Thanks,

ocd

[m3838]

I looked at bandoneon keyboard chart, where the buttons were color coded ...

 

Do you have a link for that chart?

 

Thanks,

ocd

http://www.inorg.chem.ethz.ch/tango/band/band_node13.html

 

look for 130 voices chart.

[Theodore Kloba]

The only puzzle is what key is this layout? (push/pull)

It looks to me like A, where the tonic is on the pull. Am I right?

You have push and pull reversed. The center row is A (with tonic on push); outer (top) row is G; inner (bottom) row is like E with some accidentals. Edited April 26, 2007 by Theodore Kloba

[Daniel Hersh]

Well, this discussion explains something that has puzzled me about the Chemnitzer layout. What I've always thought of as the fifth button of the core section of the right-hand G row doesn't play the standard notes for that button on a 2-row German (or Anglo) concertina. When I've been playing Anglo and not Chemnitzer and pick up the Chemnitzer again I'm always tripped up by that button until I get re-acclimated. And now I think I know why that button is that way: that was originally a four-button row (on a 28-button concertina) rather than a five-button row...so that button isn't historically part of the core layout at all.

 

Still annoys me though...

 

Daniel

 

I looked at bandoneon keyboard chart, where the buttons were color coded depending on the chronology of additions, and (expectantly) relalized that the core bandoneon is 28 button Anglo-German concertina.

The only puzzle is what key is this layout? (push/pull)

LH

------- d3/g2 ----- a3/g3 ------ c4/b3---- e4/d4

e3/a2 ---- g#3/e3 --- b3/a3 --- d4/c#4 --- f34/e4

---b2/e3 ----- #4/e4 ---- a4/g#4 --- d#4/b4 ---- f#3/f3

 

RH

----------- f#4/g4 ------ a4/b4 ----- c5/d5 ------ e5/g5

g#4/a4 ---- b4/c#4 --- d5/e5 ---- g#5/a5 ----- b5/c#6

----d#5/e5 ---- f#5/g#5 --- a5/b5 ---- c#6/e6 ---- g5/d#5

 

It looks to me like A, where the tonic is on the pull. Am I right?

[Theodore Kloba]

So that button isn't historically part of the core layout at all.

 

Still annoys me though...

Try playing in C (with tonic on the draw) and you'll appreciate that F more.

[Daniel Hersh]

Fair enough. I'm still trying to fully absorb the Chemnitzer fingerings both directions in A and G, and trying to learn D. If I ever get to C I'm sure I will value that F, even though it's not what I expect to find on that button due to my Anglo reflexes.

 

So that button isn't historically part of the core layout at all.

 

Still annoys me though...

Try playing in C (with tonic on the draw) and you'll appreciate that F more.

Edited April 27, 2007 by Daniel Hersh