DaveRo
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@SmougyGWhere are you located?
It's a good idea to put your location in your profile, btw, especially for questions like this. Somebody nearby might have one and be prepared to let you try it.
I have a Peacock.
Anybody in Kent have one of those 74-button Jay Haydens?
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If you google 'drudwen concertina' you'll find that this 48key EC for sale, often with the same sutherland label attached.
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Ebay has one with pictures - search ebay for 'concertina sutherland'
It's described as a Drudwen Sutherlands 48key EC
A label on it says sutherlandtrading.com
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And why would someone choose a private FB group to sell it?
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Since that post of mine I bought a S/H Peacock. That's good for a year or ten.
It would be interesting to know whether the Peacock XL is still on the stocks, though.
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18 hours ago, Łukasz Martynowicz said:
...binaural recording let you move around the room freely
Unless I misunderstand binaural recording, the 'dummy head' used for the recording is in a fixed position. The listener will only hear the effect of moving around if the head moved around. Which would be disconcerting if the listener is sitting still.
The point, surely, of binaural recording is fidelity of the sound heard by a (single) member of the audience. Whether a solo concertina should be recorded 'faithfully' - or whether it would sound 'better' recorded in mono is quite another question. As well as the sound coming out of both ends, on my duet the left is much louder.
(And it occurs to me that an active sound-cancelling speaker might be an alternative to a baffle to quieten the accompaniment from the point of view - or hearing - of me, the player. I expect it's been tried.)
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I started with a Stagi 46 two years ago at age 70 and with no instrumental experience since giving up piano lessons at age 10, and never having touched a concertina. It's easy to play - I liked it. But I had to stop after 9 months because of painful wrists.
I now have a Peacock which is lighter and has 42 buttons, which are positioned better for me. The fewer buttons limits what I can tackle - tunes go off the ends. I wouldn't recommend starting with an Elise with even fewer buttons.
I (re?)learned staff notation, but only the treble clef. I find it essential for what I play. And I seem to have developed a very partial hayden-centric mapping of the dots to the buttons.
The main problem with starting on a Hayden is trading up. Secondhand instruments are scarce. If you really get into the Hayden system you may need to spend big money in a year or two. My plan was to get a Beaumont, but they're no longer made. Maybe Edward Jay will make a 46- or 52-key 3d-printed one. Maybe.
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9 hours ago, Chris Ghent said:
...the pin at the bottom of the button being out of its hole at rest
I had this problem with my secondhand CC Peacock. The picture shows the pin out of the hole. I fixed it (after emailing CC for advice) by bending the lever - which was difficult with a pair of pliers in each hand: the brass is tough. The geometry is complicated by it being a curved lever (top F#) so the pad doesn't drop 'vertically' on the hole and doesn't always land on exactly same spot, which I think may be one cause of the problem. I expect my tendency, as a beginner, to mis-hit the button and push it sideways also contributes!
I suspect I'll have to do this again: the button is already slightly higher on the outside, though it doesn't fall over yet.
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I remember Leonard Bernstein, in one of his popular TV programmes from the 1960s(?), demonstrating rubato and saying that it means 'stolen' in Italian. Time is stolen from one note and given to another.
(The programmes are all on YouTube. As are his Norton Lectures given at Harvard if you've got a spare day or two.)
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I've known this tune ever since Ken Burns' documentary about the American Civil War was shown on TV here in the UK. After 11 hours of viewing, it's impossible not to know it!
When I got my first concertina, a Stagi Hayden 46, I quickly learned the melody and went looking for a 2-part version for the left-hand accompaniment. I found one by the Rude Mechanicals:
http://www.rudemex.co.uk/library/Alphabetical/01tunelib_alphabetical.php
I transposed that to G, messed with it a bit, and set out to learn it. 12 months later, and having swapped the Stagi for a Peacock (which doesn't quite have all the notes) I can play it, but not well or reliably. I still have to watch the score to see where the left hand is going next.
Here, fwiw, is an attempt, mistakes and all, played into my Android tablet.
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17 hours ago, Łukasz Martynowicz said:
Just last week I’ve made some preliminary tests of new printed lever design that allows for curved levers, which are absolutely necessary to solve reed placement and lever routing problem on Haydens.
Curved how? My Peacock has some curved levers - curved in the horizontal plane (with the buttons vertical) - that is they go around other buttons. Those pads therefore do not drop vertically onto the holes. (I have a problem with one of these.)
It's not clear from Edward's pics at
https://facebook.com/groups/335284551953621/
but it looks to me that some levers go over others, so the pads land vertically which I think is better.
BTW, when I saw Edward's 'sine wave' pattern on the end covers it reminded me of a flat plastic air-vent I had: I could rotate a knob in the middle and close the holes. I wonder if you could build in a similar device - a sliding plate which reduces the holes and muffles the bass?
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Ah, I forgot that since GDPR (General Data Protection Registration - for our US friends) 'cookies' includes all locally stored data.
You're far too modest about your code, btw: it's the javascript eqivalent of copperplate!
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That's great - so much faster and more responsive.
On my Android tablet it works perfectly - both in Firefox and Chrome.
On my wife's iPad in Safari I noticed two glitches:
- it stops sounding if I leave it (e.g shut the cover) and go back to it. And sometimes when I switch tabs. Probably it unloads. I have to reload it to get it to play again.
- double tapping a note zooms it in, which is probably not what you want. I wonder if it can be supressed? But I suppose the piano is not for playing tunes on!
I see it sets a cookie. Perhaps say why (settings?) in the About box - and whether you collect any data.
Edited to add: Actually, I think Chrome is lying. It says there's 1 cookie, but when I display cookies - there isn't one.
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Reverse chronological order isn't a feature offered by the Invision forum software, and won't be, judging from the developer's comments in their forum (invisioncommunity.com/forums).
As well as going to the latest unread post in a thread - which is what I do, and I think is the default - you can go to the latest post.
It does depend on how you read the forum though. Personally I start from the RSS feed - and the latest post there is at the top!
https://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?/discover/all.xml/
(But the RSS feed has a major flaw: it doesn't show the name of the poster.)
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When I bought an instrument from Canada - I am in the UK - I thought the main risk was it getting stuck in UK customs, or paying the 20%+ tax, or it just going missing. So I arranged the shipping myself. I thought it would be easier for me than the vendor to resolve any delivery problems in the UK as I was party to the contract. I used a UK Parcel Broker who gave me a choice of shippers (UPS, DHL, no-name, ...) at various prices and a choice of insured value. I could choose, after consulting the vendor, whether it was to be collected or dropped off at a collection point. It all went well.
So when I sold my previous instrument I stipulated the same process. The buyer would have preferred that I arranged shipping, but I did not want to have to resolve problems with customs or delivery in a foreign country whose language I do not speak, with the risk of having to refund if it disappeared. And there were problems, but the buyer sorted them out and - eventually - received the instrument.
It obviously requires the buyer to trust the seller, to pay for the instrument confident that the seller will release it. And also how keen the seller is to sell it. The advantage to the buyer is in choosing a shipper in which they have confidence.
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Or are you asking about the curious treble clef? It's like that throughout the book. Each double stave seems to be identical.
Probably only Brian will know why it appears like that. My guess is that a Roneo Machine was involved.
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Well, I start off with a new piece with a 'fixed', or rather 'default' idea of how to finger it. In learning it I have to adapt - especially when trying to avoid using the same finger on consecutive notes.
(I hope the translation of my post into Chinese is better than Google's translation back into English. 'Tricky' becomes 'fantastic' - though I'm not sure in what sense!)
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I started playing the Stagi Hayden last year. On the right I play mostly with my first three fingers. Most of the earliest pieces I played were in G - often because I transposed them. If one is in C, I shift whole my hand one to the left.
But what about the left-hand fingering? When I started I chose to use the little finger of my left hand for the leftmost buttons - those I use my index finger for on the right. (That's when playing a a scored accompaniment, not chords.) It seemed the logical thing to do. After a year - and having got a Peacock - I began to wonder if this was a good decision, partly through reading some posts here. But by then I was used to it, so I stuck with it. I usually start playing with some finger warmup exercises, including playing fast tunes on right, then left, then both together. I'm finding my left hand fingering is getting quicker, but moving my little finger from, say, the 3rd row to the first, is still too slow.
@luli I found Judy Hawkins' early tutorials threads useful:
https://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?/topic/15414-hayden-tutorial-wheeeeee/
There are 11 of them I think. My 'finger warmup' tunes come from those. (On my printed score of 'Swinging on a gate' from #4 I wrote 'tricky fingering!')-
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This forum has 'Personal Status Updates', aka 'Public Messages', which are public posts 'within' a user's profile, rather than part of a discussion forum. I see these because I monitor c.net via RSS - as I mentioned in this post. Since asking that question I've seen a few of these and concluded that they're mostly accidental, that the user probably thought they were posting a forum topic, but I don't know.
Today I got a link to this status update which contains a tune (you may have to scroll down). I suspect that many (most?) people won't see that post. I don't know how others read the forum, but status updates are not included by default in unread content - or they're not for me.
Should status updates be included by default in unread content? Existing users might consider adding them.
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I can't read this PowerPoint file on an Android, but from the CITES site:
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As a former Stagi Hayden player I found the video fascinating, though disappointing for what it didn't show.
The OP wrote that the Hayden is their most popular model. On their website they list 21 concertinas, if which just one is a Heyden:
https://www.concertineitalia.it/en/concertinas-concertine-italia/
So the Hayden may be their most popular model while being a small minority of concertinas they sell. I wonder what they meant?
It's not clear, but I assume that Concertine Italia have no design capabilty, they are just making the models they have inherited. That's clearly a big limitation. As well as a better 46 key Hayden I would like to see a model to fill the gap left by the end of Beaumont production. That would give their existing and future Hayden 46 players an upgrade path. But it would have to be properly designed, not like the current one. If it were light enough, I might buy one.
The OP also wrote, in the earlier thread that Japan is 'a major market'. I wonder if it's the biggest market?
Does the Stagi brand name have a poor reputation - apart from on this forum? I've no idea. I'm surprised they would drop it without some market research, unless they legally have to. 'Concertine Italia' is not a sensible brand name IMO - too long and unmemorable. Perhaps 'Recanati', or something that sounds good in Japanese?
Anyway, I wish Concertine Italia success.
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Hello, and welcome to concertina.net
I have sent you a Private Message (PM).
Click the little envelope at the top to read it and reply to me privately.
(Mr Lu and I have been corresponding by email.)
Three sets of polkas off the "Sliabh Notes" recordings
in Tunes /Songs
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If I do the same, and open the file in EasyABC (v1.3.8.6 on Linux) or a text editor it appears as Mícheál's.
david@localhost:~/Documents/concertina/abc/temp> file newtune.abc newtune.abc: UTF-8 Unicode textAre you also using EasyABC? If so, this may be you are using the old Python 2 version - but that's a guess.