Irene S.
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Mmmmm!! Interesting!! Lets see now!!
I live in Beverley, East Riding of Yorkshire, UK. Population 30,000.
From that number I know of, 3 Anglo players (includes myself), 4 English players, and 1 Duet player.
The UK population stands at about 64,000,000.
Sooo?
3 Anglos in 30,000 gives 6,400 for the whole UK and 8533 English and 2133 Duet. Yes??
Not exact, I know and takes no account of players I have no knowledge of; but then they would always be under the radar, wouldn't they??
regards
Jake
Nice idea, but I would have thought rather unsound to be basing it on the number of population in one particular town. These are only the players that you personally know about - what are the true figures? It's far too simplistic a model to be at all statistically significant, and ignores a number of variables that need to be considered .For instance, there are going to be many factors affecting the numbers of players of any type in the town - musical participation in Beverley may be very different from a neighbouring town, and one county may have different characteristics from another. Furthermore your base level should probably be the actual number of instruments manufactured. On the matter of the duets, how many were actually manufactured over the years ... how many have suffered the effects of natural wastage and damage, what number were still available to play etc etc. A figure of 1 duet player in one town is really not a sample large enough to be basing any considerations upon. Those are just a few immediate thoughts that occur to me anyway.
As to the number of Maccann players that Geoff quoted me as having identified it was certainly over 100 by the time I had ground to a halt with the list (and I know of several others identified since then). Unfortunately the list got lost when my laptop at the time died! When I was first inveigled into trying a Maccann out in the first place I was told that there were only 150 known players - a figure quoted at me more than once by more than one person, although nobody has yet been able to say where it came from. It is obviously nowhere near correct .. my 100+ does not include various other Maccann players whose names I know not but have come across at workshops - or those people playing quietly in privacy ... all subjects previously discussed, of course.
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We now have three threads about the same stolen concertina - perhaps somebody could amalgamate them?
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I saw reports elsewhere that both Weatherspoons and Middle Earth were flooded.
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It was first broadcast in 2009 ,and was the subject of a thread then ...http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=9961
With nice pic of it tidied up , and belonging to member Simon H (unless it's left his hands four years on?)
And strangely enough, Dick, you started that thread in 2009!
As the as broadcast was originally shown in July 2013, and bears the title "Sunderland Reversions" it looks as though it's a revisit of the original programme. -
Page no longer available!
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The whole point of requiring the Wheatstone version is that the C octave is duplicated in the right hand. But thanks anyway.
Indeed but not usually on a 55-key, even from Wheatstone, though a rare exception did turn up recently. And not all Wheatstone 57-keys (as the 58-key is usually called - the extra key is an air button) do it either - in particular the early instruments usually don't.
A 57-key was on offer on this website not very long ago, and they are slow to sell, so do have a look around, it might be still available. Because the market is very small, buying just the Maccann you want can take a little while, even though there seem to be more sellers than buyers in the market just now.
Agreed that not all 57/58's have the C . As to the matter of whether that recently offered 58 is still up for sale ... ahem, I think Hallamtrads might very well be aware of that ... it was originally his, and was sold by a family member
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Suggestion...
I really like that song, 'John O'Dreams.' Heard it again recently on the radio, done by Mick Maloney... I think I read that it's on an album of his called 'Songs From The Heart.'
Of course, it's many places. It's in the Rise Up Singing songbook, I think... have to double-check that.
I've played along with this one a bit, but never really worked out any arrangement or whatever.
Just a thought.
Good song ... written by Bill Caddick and using a tune by Tchaikowsky from Symphony No 6 (The Pathetique) - often mistakenly thought of as an Irish folk song!
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For the hambo, there is no sheet ..
Actually Anahata has provided a link to the notation (with harmonies and vocal line as well!) in the body of the notes on the Youtube posting!
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Just a quick note to say that I shall be bringing a few of Ralph Jordan's CD "Eloise" with me up to Whitby. If you haven't already got a copy, and would like one I shall be around (mostly things like the ballad sessions, folk club, Traditional evenings at the Football club etc, although I have intentions of trying to get to Spare Parts sessions at least once). The CD was very favourably reviewed in "English Dance and Song" when it came out , and is a lovely eclectic mix of music ranging through Bach, Mats Eden, "The Navy Lark", Roger Tallroth's "Josefins Dopvals" etc played by Ralph on his Maccann Duet Aeola, and with backing from guitar, bass guitar, bouzouki, harmonium etc (again all played by him). Yours for the princely sum of £10.
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I believe it can be proven mathematically that there is no system of voting that is free of anomalies/faults/whatever you want to call them... ......
I think that worrying that the polling setup "skews" results is taking the whole concept too seriously, especially since this isn't a once-in-a lifetime choice, but new each month.
Hi Jim
Re point one, I totally agree that no matter what system there's bound to be some anomaly ...
As to the matter of "worrying " about the potential skew on the results ... hmmm, take your ease, I'm not. (The comments were made on a point of interest and observation). I'm still waiting to get going on the first two tunes of the month which I haven't got round to. I didn't like any at all one month, so probably won't bother with that one ... and I know which one I like this month. In fact I'd done some work on it a few months ago before this poll came up, so will probably return to it and soldier on with it no matter what the outcome is !
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i rather suspect that the "vote for your top two favourites" idea is going to throw up an imbalance. I didn't have a top two to vote for as I only fancied one of the tunes, so there was only one vote from me. I notice that 18 members at this stage have voted according to the tally at the top of the page - yielding a total of 27 votes. So clearly more than one of us has either voted for only one, or has abstained. As there is no means of recording order of preference etc, I think the results are going to be unduly skewed, although I am willing to believe my logic may be out of kilter ? Hey ho ...
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The Claque were pure class...... An interesting talk by Richard Davenport concerning the little known Gatty collection of Yorkshire songs,
The Claque always are pure class!
And I presume that Paul sent his little known brother Richard along ??
Sorry I missed the weekend this year ... but it's on my list to return to next year.
Glad to hear that it went well.
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Indeed! It inspires me to wonder about being a brave bunny and seeing if I can manage something on the duet.
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It's free, although you'll need to buy your own food and drink in the pub (good quality pub food at reasonable prices) http://vanillabrand.com/?page_id=36
Unfortunately the ICA's website is inaccessible at the moment.
Thanks Valmai ... I can vouch for the food, of course!
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It sounds interesting, but the one thing I can't glean from any of that is whether this is a free entry event, or whether there is a charge. The flyer doesn't give any indication. I would consider coming but without that information am uncertain. I tried accessing the ICA website for more information, only to find that it told me that Access was Denied, and I was not allowed to view it! Any chance you could confirm costs if there are any?
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Very subtle that, Geoff!
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The film is set in 18th century Paris, so, even given the anachronistic tendencies of film producers and directors, the appearance of a concertina is exceedingly unlikely. I have also found reference to the young Paltrow playing a harpsichord or a piano in the film - a much more likely choice (given that the film is supposed to be full of baroque music).
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Just voted. It claims that 28 people have now voted in this poll, yet when I subsequently added up all the votes, they only came to 23 in total. Surely some mishtake?
Chris
This was brought up before Chris. If you go in and don't actually cast a vote, it still includes you as having voted. I went in, had a look at the three tunes in question, didn't actually like any of them that much, so didn't vote for any of them ... in other words a vote of "abstention". So that would be one of the 5 in question at the time you looked.
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Darn ... I took my eye off the ball. Uncle Norman's unpleasant surprise is a fiendish and some would say dangerous move to play. Your experience and guile shines through. Well done sir!
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Since you mention the possibility of playing "various styles" I think I tend to side with Maccannic ... but then I am also biassed, as I have a Maccann myself. Having watched and listened to other duet players I am also aware that duets can be used to play many and varied types of music. Good luck with your choice
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It hasn't gone away here ... McAfee still showing a red warning . I wonder why the difference?
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Oh to heck with it ... rumbled ... OK Chris I'll uncross the tracks and wires ... BOW ROAD.
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This is getting stressful ..... and for that reason, I'm out.
(Whoops ... crossed wires.... or should that be tracks:?).
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Presumably as two of the keys on the right hand end are special effects - one bird whistle and the other (??) - that reduces the options on the Right Hand even more.
Poll: Tune Of The Month For January 2014
in Tune of the Month
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Errmm, yes indeed. That trio is Vasen (can't do the thingy over the "a") ... and includes the composer of Josefins Dopvals, Roger Tallroth (as referred to previously by Chris Drinkwater) on guitar . And yes Ralphie Jordan did record it on "Eloise" - still available to buy direct from him. He is insistent, by the way, that it should be played in F (as originally written by the composer) and not G as played by many, as it gives the tune a slightly different feel. - must say that I tend to agree with him,