Henk van Aalten
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Hello Christopher
Welcome to this forum!
...and have come to the conclusion that the instument with the voice I like the best is a CG Suttner (dare I say, a slightly nasal voice, rather than an accordian voice). Since the Suttner is a lot of money to me, Im a beginner, and I cannot wait for 4 years, Ive searched for instuments that most closely resemble the Suttner voice....Last Sunday I was allowed to play the Wakker W-A1. Now if you're looking for a "nasal voice"... this is what you are looking for! Have a look at this page!!
1) Am I crazy for trying to pick an instrument based on MP3s and photos?2) Has anyone tried out a Tedrow, and do you like it?
3) Has anyone tried out a Morse? What do you think?
4) Would I be better off spending 1500-2000 on a used instrument from a reputable dealer, versus new?
Answering your question 1 as far as MP3 concerns: you can only really compare when the recording conditions are the same. Recording conditions and editing afterwards can seriously influence the final sound.
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Charlotte,
A lot of information on modes and scales can be found here.
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My father spoke to the Guy at Barleycorn, who also sells concertinas on Ebay under the name of Cocoa111. This was to do with a Wheatstone my father saw on Ebay. He phoned up to ask about it, as Barleycorn deal with second hand ones, and it turned out it was one that the guy @ B/C had restored, and was selling.
If you lot really think I should go for a second hand one, then I'll concider it, but what do I do, or can I do, if the thing turns our to be crap, or I don't like it.
When you're talking about Barleycorn youre father must have been talking to Chris Algar. I would advice to contact Chris, because he has a good reputation for restoring concertinas and he seems to have quite a lot of concertinas in store.
I am sure that Chris will give you an advice according to your wishes (price, type of concertina, etc.).
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I have looked at Henk's page and that was very helpful and have also had a conversation with a concertina workshop here in Southern Germany and I feel that it should be possible to relocate where I need to.
So will let you know when I am finished. Wish me luck.
Thanks again for the advice,
lyndall
Lyndall,
I wish you luck. Take care in finding the right position. It maybe very well for you thumb, but the bottom-row (G) must be easily playable without overbending your fingers. Looking at the photos I must say that your thumb is rather short in comparison with your fingers.
Take care
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Jim
Thanks for your Audicity/Henk promotion
I want to stress this part of your message:l
The important thing is that each track you record needs to be submitted separately.I think I also mention this in the Project Page.
For that reason I think your suggestion below might be confusing (especially for less experienced Audacity users)
Which reminds me, if you include Henk's original along with your own as a second track when you record, make sure that one is identified as "right channel" and the other as "left channel" before saving as MP3, otherwise they'll be mixed together. But left and right will be kept separate for Henk to work with independently when he does his "orchestration".I will have another look at the roject Page and maybe I will make some animation to illustrate the main points.
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This is a very cool idea! Is it possible to contribute even nearly 2 years after the project started?
Well, if you are quick, you might be the second contributor. This project is still open and will stay open for at least another year (I stay optimistic
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is it ok if i send in one on concertina and one on flute? i need to work it a day or two more before i send in banish misfortune.
David,
You can send anything that is mixable with the original tune.
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Since I was away from c.net for a few years, I just now found out about the Big Band project. As soon as I get a chance, I'm going to see what I can do with Polska No. 19. I'm not sure which instrument(s) I'll try.
Incidentally, since the recording and sheetmusic given are melody only, what's an appropriate traditional chord progression? I could harmonize it myself, but it might not come out as expected.
Theodore, your free to harmonize yourself. Maybe the fact that the fidlle is used very often in Swedish music, can give you a clue?
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So keep on squeezing this tune and you will really banish misfortune and improve your playing
Thanks for the encouragement - I think I might be improving. I had thought about recording the second and third time only, so that you could add extra instruments on each repeat - had you considered that?
Rod
Rod
While browsing the thread I discovered that I never gave you a proper answer. to the question below:
I had thought about recording the second and third time only, so that you could add extra instruments on each repeat - had you considered that?The answer is yes of course!
Just record and send the result to me at:
B.T.W.: this answer to Rod applies to all of you!
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I have been told by one or two folk musicians that concertina players can actually be quite snobbish, due to the cost of a top quality concertinas as opposed to guitars, Bodhrains etc.
When people like you talk in such a fashion, it is no wonder that other people think like this.
I have never noticed anything snobbish in this forum. This is a very helpful group of people. Always prepared to answer any question en very often giving more than a simple answer with a lot of extra information.
I hold 9 GCSE's of grade D and above, and I have an GNVQ Intermediate in Information Technology, passed with a Merit, and an AVCE Advanced in Information Communication Technology (ICT) which I passed with a CC grade.So.. should I be impressed?? Who is snobbish here??
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My website and (more important for C.Net) the Recorded Tunes Link Page are "back in the air".
As a result I hope that the problems that Allison and Brian had, belong to the paste
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I'm sorry to break the news this way, and I'm trying think of a way not to be brutal about this, but all it means is that some of us talk too much!
So... that's why your avatar has a red head!
edited to include Chris' avatar
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I Just Made Heavyweight Boxer!For some reason, this makes me inordinately happy.
Congratulations Rhomylly!!
As I see that you have no avatar at the moment, I give you a new one below:
Maybe it also helps to get the "beat" of the Avalon Quick Step
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If you could post a picture the exact problem might be clearer to us.
Lyndall,
I agree with Jake that a picture of your situation could help very much. I have a simple (maybe stupid) question: are you having your thumb outside the handstrap as can be seen on the picture below??
(I have linked to a picture of Boney)
At least you could remove the right front-plate to see how the wooden support is attached. When it is screwed, you could carefully unscrew it and then try to find a new position for the wooden support. Mark the new position and drill new holes in the front-plate and screw the support to the frontplate.
Do it carefully and maybe this instruction on opening a concertina is helpful.
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Sure this is bending, but to my taste it is overdone. Sounds to me more like a drunken player!
Which means it's a real blues then.
This is a very interesting generalisation Michael. So no matter what you play (from ITM to Beethoven on a tin whistle or cello), if you drink enough, you will end up playing the blues
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Check this out:
Sure this is bending, but to my taste it is overdone. Sounds to me more like a drunken player!
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I know it doesn't seem like the customers, waiting for 6 sided concertinas will disappear anytime soon, but things usually change drastically in a very short time. Never hurts to try different things.
Michael,
There are already a lot of customers for completely round concertinas.
It's a promising begin of a world wide introduction of the CR concertina
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Just to inform you: at this moment my web-site (including the links page) is not accessible. I contacted my internet provider on this subject.
The posiive point is that the behaviour of the Links Page is again equal for all
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Have your whisky first! It might improve your playing and prevent blanching and blushing
No, no! Being Danish, Charlotte must blanch (turn white) and blush (turn red)!
Those are the colors of the Danish flag.
That makes the Danish flag a very human flag
How about our Dutch flag: we should not only turn red and white but blue as well
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There are 2 new tunes on the Links Page, played by "beginner" Charlotte. She announced the tunes in this topic and she got some encouraging comments.
Charlotte, you're braver (and less techno-challenged) than I am! I think it's great that you have two tunes up there!Eye yam imp rest!!!
With a progress like this in such a relative short time, Charlotte sets an example for beginners. In Lord I. the beginning of octave playing and harmony is already there
. First I blanched, Then I blushed, then I had a whisky (mmm). But then again, why not?Have your whisky first! It might improve your playing and prevent blanching and blushing
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I'm using dial-up and a cranky old computer, and was assuming it was a problem at my end, until I saw a report on another thread of a user finding Jody's tunes stopping after 7 secs. Weird.
That was me, Brian, and it's still happening, no matter which tunes I try to hear!
Allison and Brian,
As I have only influence on files that are hosted on my site, I would like to know more details. For that reason I will send you an e-mail.
To all others: please report if you have problems with sound files on the links page.
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There was a lot going on with the Links Page the last few days. During the last check, it appeared that there were 35 broken links. At the same time a lot of new submissions came in.
- Brian Peters submitted 5 tunes that are introduced by him in this thread.
- Jody Kruskal plays an Irish tune in English/American/Jody style. He introduces the tune in this message.
- Jeff Lefferts finished his Whistling Rufus project.
- David Barnert was triggered by "Da Slockit Light" played by Chris Timson and submitted his version, played on his Wheatstone Hayden Duet.
- As Tom Lawrence is re-recording his material, he withdrew his previous tunes and replaced them with 2 tunes. Each tunes is played on his Edgley A/E, Edgley C/G, Tedrow mini concertina in D and his Dipper County Clare C/G. Tom informed me that more tunes will be published in future.
The page is now free from broken links and is enriched with great contributions
!Thanks to Brian, Jody, Jeff, David and Tom
- Brian Peters submitted 5 tunes that are introduced by him in this thread.
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I may be stupid, but where do I find these things?
Go to this page and click on th download link at the bottom-left of the page.
I did have the same trouble, because I expected to find the item at the top menu. So I have seen the whole site before finding the download link
Buying A Concertina For Irish Music
in General Concertina Discussion
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That would be a good idea Jim, but first be clear about your definition of "hybrid". If it is only accordeon-reeded you miss the Suttners, Wakker's new model, Wally Carrols, etc.