gunmanbob

Hi Geoffery, thank you for sharing this awesome document! This looks like it is the exact fingering chart I was looking for. It also looks like only a few of my reeds are a bit out of tune in this case. Thanks!

Interesting, if anyone has any questions about it let me know and I will answer them the best I can!

This is the fingering layout that I was able to create with a tuner and the suggested program. As you might notice there are a few N/As where the reed could not voice enough for the tuner to pick up. I am planning on going through and fixing these over the next week but it will take a little time. Please let me know if any patterns jump out to you or if this looks similar to something you've seen. Thanks!

I believe it is! I will use the program you have suggested and make my own fingering diagram and post it here when I am finished. I also think that the F row differs slightly but it might just be due to the instrument, from what I have heard Scholers do not have a great reputation and I bought this used at a garage sale and have been trying to get a lot of the reeds to voice better. Is there a way that concertinas are typically set up as in is there a "normal" jump between each key? Thanks!

After a bit of searching I was able to find this middle row for a 30 key layout that matches the bottom row of my 20 key layout. I am unable to find the matching key for the top row however. If there is a way that 20 keys are set up so that I can create an accurate fingering chart please let me know. Thanks!

Sounds good! I am trying to find a fingering chart for it so I can see if the other reeds are in tune or not. Thanks!

Hi there, I recently downloaded a tuner app to see what key my Scholer 20 key was in and start the tuning process. I was under the impression that it was a common C/G key but have seem to discover that it does not sound anywhere near that. I think that it may just be so old that it orignaly was a C/G or a D/A but I then discovered that another post mentioned their Scholer 20 key being in B♭/F. I am wondering if I should try and tune it into C/G or figure out how to tune it to a B♭/F if that is even a thing. Thanks!

Thank you for the advice! It has proven hard to find info on such an old instrument so I am glad to see that there is a series about it. I will also see if I can find a copy at my library and if not ill grab a copy. Thanks!

Thank you for the Malcolm for the advice! I am currently still going through and bending each reed so that it will voice properly but am glad to hear I will not need to order more valves. Also this is something of a little hobby so I do not mind putting in the effort, it has been cool to learn a bunch about something I knew nothing about. If anyone has any advice on tuning or otherwise fixing reeds that would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

Hi there, I recently bought a Scholer 20 key concertina from a garage sale for 15 dollars. I am currently fixing it and have gotten the left half to sound well on both the pull and push. The right side has proved difficult however due to the size of the reeds. I am also worried about the fact that the right side seems to have almost no leather valves attached to it. After doing some reading on glues I think I have found one that works but I am having trouble finding leather valves in the lengths I need. Am I able to just buy a larger size and use an exacto knife to trim them? Any other tips on repairs for a beginner or tips for beginners in general would be appreciated. Thanks!