Dieppe
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I tried to upload tosay and just got this message
I haven't uploaded anything recently, but I do have some songs on my own SoundLantern account.
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Concertina="Rent Cocain"? Or "En Narcotic?"
Neah... "Recant Coin!" Or better "Not Nice Car"...
English Concertina=Encroaching Silent? Encroach Listening! Chanticleer Sing On!
Perhaps what's best is if it's played poorly: Cochlea Inner Sting.
(Yeah, online anagram generator.. I'm not *that* talented.)
Of course a quicky: Anglo Concertina = A Long Concertina... and isn't that the truth?
Wait, or Anglo Concertina=Conceal Tin Organ!
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After spending a bit more time studying the pics this morning I'm inclined to suggest this is probably a Lachenal. What I will say is that unless parts have been substituted it's not a Wheatstone.
I'm no concertina expert but I was thinking Lachenal myself, the bellows paper and such could be a hint. Somewhere I remember a list of bellows papers and the company it'd have come from.
I've never head of Medina though. Is the serial number going to give any hints as to its age?
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Here's a sad concertina on eBay. (Item #220315121661).
It looks like an English layout, with the thumb straps removed, and a hand strap added. A "Medina"? #7087?
Some of the pictures, where it is expanded and held vertically, I can't help but imagine a poor hound puppy being held up by its ears or something.
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Any tips for using the air button on a concertina properly?
And is there any way to make it not as obvious that I'm using the air button...it sounds like an asthmatic snail....
is there any exercise that would help?
you get the picture...erm..help?
I don't know what these kind folks are talking about, but if you were playing an English Concertina, you'd only use it for putting your 'tina away! Though some of the older models don't even bother with a special air button, I mean they'll already have 48 or 56 or so that already let air through, why have a special one with no reed after all?
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Wood levers and reed boxes... I would think the wood levers would be prone to breaking? Are the reed boxes like that any better or just different than reeds on the frame or whatever?
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(probably the only good reason to live in Los Angeles!)
Awww now, there's other good reasons I'm sure...
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They were too lazy to take a picture of their own instrument?
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Here's another sad concertina, but this has some potential.
Although I thought this one was pretty sad too. Why so wavy?
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Ya know, those people who have "found" concertinas in their family, and manage to make several thousands of dollars off of a sale, are pretty lucky. But I think, luckier still, are those who manage to get a good quality instrument and play it.
It thrills me to no end when I see auctions, and hoping that they end up going to someone who plays. I'll admit it does sadden me to think of people purchasing them just to put them in a glass case somewhere, but as someone pointed out these people may be saving them for the next generation of players 50 years from now when they pass on.
Still... use them, play them, enjoy them! That's what these were made for, after all!
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I thought there was a place you could enter a number, and search, rather than just look through the lists---but I haven't been able to find that.
Here's the link, but I've drawn a blank:
Aha.. that's the page.. and yeah, it's not in there. Odd. Maybe it was a demo model? A workman took one home?
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I recently purchased a "needs fixin' up" Wheatstone from eBay. I'm still waiting for it to arrive, like ya do. Anyway I've searched the Wheatstone archives, and serial # 3792 doesn't seem to exist. I thought there was a place you could enter a number, and search, rather than just look through the lists---but I haven't been able to find that.
In any case, what could it mean if a Wheatstone serial number isn't in the registers? Is it a Ghost Concertina? Any ideas? Or am I just looking in the wrong place?
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Which part of the poll includes the "Colonies" part of the UK?
I guess technically I'm in the part that was Spanish Colonies and missions...
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First figure out if it's a duet or an Anglo, then we can discuss key (and the related issue of whether it's in old or modern pitch).
Someone earlier had the good suggestion of taking it to a local expert. Where are you located?
I'm in Vancouver, not a lot of experts listed in the yellow pages.
Depending on how the US Presidential race ends up, you may have a few more Experts moving to Vancouver..
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Well, there it is! Way out of my price range, but dang if that's not going to make someone a fine instrument! And it'll probably go for higher than the current bid is...
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See! I knew someone might know more! Either way that does have the potential to be a gorgeous instrument.. but could be a aways from being it. I'd be hesitant about the rusty reeds, but hasn't someone said that reeds with a little bit of rust usually aren't a problem?
(No problems with rust on my brass reeds...
)Patrick
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but is it just junk?
I've had this kicking around in my storage for the past 12 years and the other day thought I should look into it's background.
Can ayone help with a first impression?
Thanks Graham
My guess is that's a Jeffries (ya think), that's missing a few buttons, has rather rusty reeds, missing some screws, and could need a bunch of work to get it to playable condition.
My gut feeling is you came to the right place. However, if you think you may have some expensive gonna-make-ya-rich on the Antiques Roadshow item, you probably don't have the right thing for that. Ming vase it isn't, but there are people who would love to take an old instrument like that, restore it, and play it! Just shooting from the hip here, but it'd probably take at least $1k+ to restore it depending on what's wrong. Figure if you personally restored it, or sent it away to be restored, you'd have something worth more than it is now... but that's a lot of time.
Someone may make an offer for it, if you're willing to sell. Personally, I love to see older instruments (dunno the age on this one myself) become loved and played instruments, rather than just languish in a junk store somewhere. Good luck!
You didn't mention where you live, perhaps someone who is local to you might like to take a look at it?
Patrick
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I am really concerned about that discussion. I am not a dealer who wants to make profit with concertinas, it is the opposite that I lost a lot of money by trying to get a nice concertina. Please don't blame me if now I like to get back the money I spent for the Edgley. Fact for me is that a Edgley concertina (at least in the first year of playing) has no wear at all but rather improves with continuous playing. I only ask if someone likes to have a 30 key rapidly without any waiting time. I don't think this is immoral. If this is not the market price (I am no professional dealer to know that) then I redraw my offer, because I do not want to be blamed to be a profiteer. Thank you for all your comments.
I don't think anybody blames you to be immoral. Profiteering is not considered a sin in the Western world. And to me your offer is not profiteering either. It's just that the offer was a little strange, that's all. I agree, a year old instrument may play better than new, but the risk is simply that a buyer doesn't know where that instrument has been and how used. So that is taken into consideration. If I were in the market, I would have contacted you and arrange a deal. I think an Edgley is the best hybrid out there. After all, a buyer can ask any question and receive satisfying answers.
For that matter a buyer could offer less than what the seller wants, and the seller doesn't have to take it.. but what if that's the only offer? I mean, even amongst concertina friends (who aren't trying to stiff each other) I'm sure there's room for consideration and haggling. It's not like it's an eBay auction with a high initial bid, and no wiggle room.
Just my 2 cents.
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Danny, when you bowl your concertina to another person, do you prefer overarm or underarm?
Doesn't matter, but a bit of side-spin can liven up any session.
I guess you could have someone roll it to you and hit it with a bat. But that just wouldn't be cricket now would it.
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If an anglo concertina is hit with a cricket bat in a forest, does it make a noise?
Patrick
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I forgot I'd said I'd post pics of the bag when it was completed so here it is.
I did the patchwork and designed the bag my sister then put it together for me under instruction.
It has a handles zips and padding. And can also double up as a stylish handbag.
Cool! What a nice way to transport your 'tina!
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The Button Box website is now listing # 36793, the "spitting image" of this one (# 36739) for $3,100: http://www.buttonbox.com/stocklist.html
I was looking at that myself. I'd rather (if I had that kind of money) buy it from The Button Box for less, and know that they guarantee their items and it's likely to be in tune (etc.) than risk it on an even higher priced instrument from a random person... just my thoughts is all.
Patrick
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I keep seeing the following Wheatstone on eBay item # 290261106678, and I keep wondering two things.
1: What makes it so "Rare"? That it's shiny?
and 2: Why does this seller insist on putting an impossibly high "Buy it Now" price, rather than just letting it be free to open bidding. I know how much I'd bid, and I'm sure I'd be outbid.
Is it that the seller is "sure" that it's worth that much and won't let it go for any less? Knowing that the free market for concertinas might well bid up that high... why not just let the auction system work?
(It's not like there aren't people watching eBay for Wheatstone concertinas with some disposable income..
)Patrick
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It sounds like it's over, but I was originally going to suggest that anyone in the path of the hurricane to please mail me their concertinas.
English only though.
Patrick
Anything happening in San Diego?
in General Concertina Discussion
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It's always worth it to bring your concertina! I'm in Los Angeles, and I know there's an Irish jam session at the Auld Dubliner in Long Beach on Sunday afternoons (4:00pm-8:00pm), and I've seen a fellow or two there with concertinas, but I'm not sure if it's a session one can just jump in on.