Roger Hare
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As far as the 20- vs. 30- button Anglo discussion is concerned, it might be worthwhile considering an 'in-between' Anglo with 24/26 buttons? Almost as versatile as a 30-button? Possibly cheaper than a 30-button, if you are considering a 'vintage' instrument? Probably more difficult to track down a particular key configuration (G/D. C/G, etc.)?
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11 hours ago, hjcjones said:
Sorry Simon, but I don't follow what you're saying.....
I think SG means something like this:
The top example uses inline '^' to indicate pull, the bottom example uses an 'overbar' to indicate pull.(the button numbering is not the same as GC's, the illustration is just to provide an example of what I think SG means...).
I'm sorry about the poor quality of the image (I think!). I'm currently transitioning between spectacles and am having severe problems seeing anything in focus...
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I operate at a much lower point down the food chain than either of the posters (so far), but I agree.
My 'Master' ABC tune book contains many transcriptions by other people, and I always try and include an acknowledgement in my (usually slightly) edited version of their transcription(s). This can be as simple as a reference by name, or a reference to a web page, or even a recommendation to 'buy the book' (free advertising - it can't get better than that!). Sometimes the transcription is so old and beat-up that there is no recognisable/usable 'identification'.
Anything I post publicly will also have any tune which includes the word 'copyright' or a copyright symbol filtered out.
What I don't do is post other folks' email addresses - I edit them out of everything I do...
I don't always include the acknowledgement in the score - scores are busy enough already, but I admit being a little uneasy about that particular point...
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Looks like an Anglo? Looks like he's holding it 'wrong'. Surely this will invalidate his policy in the event of a claim?...🙂
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On 3/29/2024 at 7:02 PM, jamesmason06 said:
And yes that is Mick Bramich's book 👍.
Fine. I haven't seen that one, but I used Mick Bramich's other two books when I started. For me, they were the simplest and most accessible of the tutors I looked at before starting to learn the instrument.
The reason for my asking the question in the first place was that you seem to be struggling a little with 'theory'? If that is the case, it might be worth your while considering getting a copy of In-Between Anglo. This includes a clear description of the Anglo, and a gentle introduction to music theory which I found very useful. (This may be included in 'The Irish Concertina' but remember, I haven't seen a copy of this one)...
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Later: Oh, I just saw that the other two books are no longer available as hard-copy - PDF download only. Shouldn't be a problem if you decide to invest in a copy of In-Between Anglo...
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19 hours ago, jamesmason06 said:
Thirdly, in the book I'm learning from...
May I ask for details of that book? I don't recall having seen that one before.
Five minutes later: Oh! I think it may be Mick Bramich's book? Is that correct?
Thanks.
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On 3/26/2024 at 5:09 PM, SIMON GABRIELOW said:
It looks, to me, that the numbering system on that sample has an error in the print as the A natural button can (on Anglo) be made by that same button used for G natural, with bellows simply pulled out..whilst keeping your finger on the same button.🌝
Personally, I think that (for some of us) that's a highly relevant observation.
The text in 'Civil War Concertina' reads "Notes on the pull are shown by a button number with a line across the top". I presume the text is the same in other GC books?
In the illustration in the OP this is true for notes on the right hand - look at buttons 2 and 3 - some have a line over the top of the note (pull), some don't (push).
For the left-hand, pull notes are shown with a line on the far side of the staff. This is not 'across the top', it is 'the other side of the staff'. This is not as described in the text. This is confusing.
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8 hours ago, Invertigo said:
...I will give that https://concertutor.wordpress.com/ a read over though for sure...
Maybe I'm missing something vital, but that tutor appears to be for an Anglo? The OP states that they have a Duet?
Aren't the two systems incompatible?
Whatever, here is another Duet tutor...
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There are also a couple of downloadable items here, but they may not be suitable on the grounds of different system and/or 'age'...
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13 hours ago, Matthew Heumann said:
The file I posted was in musicxml, perhaps that was the problem...
Thanks!
Yup! I'd already sussed it. I've never had the occasion to use an XML file before, so wasn't quite sure precisely what I should be doing. Simply changing the extension of the original XML file from .musicxml to .xml allowed me to import the file directly into EasyABC. This has turned into a useful exercise in familiarising myself with using XML, (even if only a little) - another potentially useful tool in the toolbox...
The ABC code generated by importing direct into EasyABC looks a bit different to the ABC code I generated at first, but was (musically) essentially the same. Once I'd 'got my ear in' this seemed to behave beautifully.
Thanks - nice tune...
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Thank you for the XML file!
For some reason, I couldn't import the XML file into EasyABC, so I tried a new (to me) sequence of operations with this one:
load the XML file into ME's program
save as ABC, and load that into EasyABC
final fine editing with EasyABC (not that there was all that much to do...
Worked almost perfectly. There was a slight anomaly on playback...
Later: Fixed - see next post but one below...
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6 hours ago, David Nichols said:
...thought it was a good chance to get some suggestions. Are there any that are particularly thematically appropriate beyond just being Irish...
I did a quick trawl through my 'Master Tune Book' and came up with the attached tunes. Some duplication, some ambiguity over tune names, some non-Irish. Whether they are 'thematically appropriate' is above my pay-grade...
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8 hours ago, yrneH said:
That's cool.
Are the `<<`s in the left margins in the pdf meaningful?
They provide a link back to the Tune book Table of Contents.
Look at the section "Adding a PDF Tunebook Table of Contents and Index" in the User Guide to see how to do this...
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Answer my own question!
I think I may have mis-understood exactly how (and when) this feature operates. It's now back (if it ever really went away!).
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3 hours ago, Rache said:
Hi Roger
I also have one for sale for £2000 ono. (can send more photos)
What sort of price is he looking to pay, I'm open to negociation !
I live in France but come over to UK regularly so could bring it.
Thank you for the continuing interest.
However, unfortunately my pal has suddenly been hit with a large (~£10k) bill for repairs to the property he lives in, so he's had to shelve any idea of purchasing a G/D for the time being...
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I hope I'm sending this to the right destination...
I've always seen a sort of summary panel at the right hand side of my screen when looking at concertina.net. It included stuff like most active threads and things like that. It's now disappeared. I'm not aware of having made any changes myself. Any ideas why this panel has vanished? Ta...
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2 hours ago, Ptarmigan said:
...#3: Salmon Tails, Jimmy Allan & Winster Gallop...
True story - it was that recording of 'Salmon Tails' which really decided me to get stuck in and learn to play the thing - brilliant - a belated thank you!
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I found this version on Soundcloud:
https://soundcloud.com/ormuz-music/bel-artilleur-de-bonne-mine
Presumably this is the group to whom Ptarmigan refers...
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6 hours ago, Ptarmigan said:
...He learned it from his Accordion tutor, back in Brittany, who gave no name to it, so I'm afraid you only have one option ... 👂 ..
Such is life! Thanks anyway...
Incidentally, where is the picture? It rocky enough to be Brittany - not a good place to be in a yacht on a dark and stormy night with an onshore wind...
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That's extremely nice!! ABC code/score anywhere, or am I going to have to try and 'earole' it? I can't see it anywhere in 'the usual places'...
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18 hours ago, Michael Eskin said:
I really don't want to clutter up the standard player UI with more controls etc...
The clutter argument is perfectly reasonable - that's why I phrased it as a question rather than a suggestion. I think I may well have responded in the same way. Thanks for the response.
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4 hours ago, Michael Eskin said:
Here you go! Thanks for the suggestion!
That's pretty neat!
Is there an argument for introducing such a count-in time to 'ordinary' playback as well as in the 'trainer'? Is it possible (silly question really...)?
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7 hours ago, Ptarmigan said:
Hi, yes, that's the fella - The Rankins
I suspect though that folks from Nova Scotia would be a bit like folks from Shetland .. i.e. technically Scottish yes, but would always think of themselves as Shetlanders first. 🙂
Cheers,
Dick
Ta!
Nova Scotians, Shetlanders, Orcadians, Bretons - I wonder how long a list of folks one could compile who are technically from A but will always say they are from B...🙂
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I like to get these things right. Was John Morris Rankin from Cape Breton, then (ie: Canadian)? Ta...
Great tune...
More videos of galician/iberian music with concertina
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Posted · Edited by Roger Hare
Brilliant! I've recently been wading through some old ABC transcriptions of music from Galicia and (mostly) Asturias, with a view to trying some of the (very!) simple tunes out on the concertina. This gives me a great feel for how it should sound. Thank you!