Kautilya
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the only pity is that you cannot slow the ABC down so one can gradually get the run of the fingering and then build up speed (a la Alan Day typing concept....
Oh yes you can! The speed of an abc file is set by a field in the header (all of those funny things at the beginning of the file). Speed is set in the Q: field. First set the default note length i.e. 1/8 or 1/4 and so on and then set the beats per minute. I find that the statement Q: 1/4=150 is a good starting point for most tunes. Slow airs will be too fast at this speed and fast reels too slow so the beat rate of 150 needs to be adjusted; for learning purposes try 80-90. Remember that the key signature field K: must be the last statement in the header. The Q: field can be added anywhere after X: and before K:
Have you tried any of the abc software that's available for free download?
Pete.
Got to slow it (The Breamish) down and speed it up - tks Pete. I must find another tunifier somewhere on my machine which allowed you to slow/speedup but also a loop function to repeat sections for phrasing - I see I have one called Audacity so somone must have mentioned it before here.
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Never mind the Keel Row.
Has anybody managed all Eight variations of "Oh Dear What Can the Matter Be"? (The First tune of this thread)
Yes, two people here. I haven't played it for a while so would need to practice it back up but it is playable at a reasonable pace. My other half plays it on English concertina, flute, recorder and whistle ...
I cannot find where these eight variations are - I know the original most famous version which goes "three old ladies got locked in a lavatory"
Then I just found one saying it was seven old ladies who got locked in the lavatory.
I presume the extra syllables (three vs sev en affect the notation and the push and pull... any experts out there or the eight-variation person?
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I thought the 'fool' said he went to work on a BMX! Not a good idea on our busy roads.
Glad the discussion has been so energetic.
BMX - BMW -- there are some Honda touring riders out here who also squeeze the odd button but we do worry for the BMW riders after seeing this (a little lighthearted relief in the middle of the concertina price wars) and you will also learn that ebay has been around a lot longer than you might think
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the only pity is that you cannot slow the ABC down so one can gradually get the run of the fingering and then build up speed (a la Alan Day typing concept....
Oh yes you can! The speed of an abc file is set by a field in the header (all of those funny things at the beginning of the file). Speed is set in the Q: field. First set the default note length i.e. 1/8 or 1/4 and so on and then set the beats per minute. I find that the statement Q: 1/4=150 is a good starting point for most tunes. Slow airs will be too fast at this speed and fast reels too slow so the beat rate of 150 needs to be adjusted; for learning purposes try 80-90. Remember that the key signature field K: must be the last statement in the header. The Q: field can be added anywhere after X: and before K:
Have you tried any of the abc software that's available for free download?
Pete.
Oh good. I had looked around a few months back but i only found rather expensive downloads
Is this one any good do u know? http://www.sharewareconnection.com/guitar-...m-trainer-2.htm
ta!
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I haven't read this topic through yet, but this site may have been put up on here before.
It has been divided into instruments or you can search under different music types. I found the O'Neills interesting, under the title of Traditional music.
Thanks,
Patrick
Thanks for this Patrick!! Very useful site - the only pity is that you cannot slow the ABC down so one can gradually get the run of the fingering and then build up speed (a la Alan Day typing concept.... typing words requires the brain to build up the letter phrasing until a particular word becomes automatic and the same should therefore apply to phrasing on the buttons (doing scales is no more than typing the word cdefgabc which as u know is Sanskrit for abracadabra).
I first developed a folding,portable keyboard in 1956 but was too young to know about patenting. I reproduced the qwerty keyboard, from a Pitman's teach yourself typing book, on a piece of paper, and then when i had nothing to do I took it out of my pocket, spread it out and practised typing....LoL... it worked, since, after I bought a portable Royal typewriter in an auction for 10 quid, I found I was already well under way.....
Indeed I have recently been experimenting playing 'word' music (with little success!) on my computer keyboard to see what sounds different words produce. My first concerto is some way off as the monkey who is co-composing with me keeps using antique and difficult words from a book allegedly written by some bloke called Shakeshaft.
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Hi,
I've just started my own Concertina MySpace today ... well, they can't touch you for it ....... can they!
Anyway, if any of you folks here have one too, why not pop over & say hello.
I must admit, it's kinda lonely over there, right now ....
Cheers,
Dick
I'm on myspace..added you....
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Lakes and pictures - Ptarmigan, if you listen to your music with Realtek HD Audio manager and turn on the auditorium sound effect it sends the music rolling out over the hills and lakes - can just imagine it echoing over Loch Nevis at Knoydart!
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Hi,
I've just started my own Concertina MySpace today ... well, they can't touch you for it ....... can they!
Anyway, if any of you folks here have one too, why not pop over & say hello.
I must admit, it's kinda lonely over there, right now ....
Cheers,
Dick
Brill and inspirational! Love the bodhran and some of the haunting sounds. Judging by the number of hits you are doing lots of good to the @loneley's@ out there so you are not lonely!
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Hey there
I brought a cheapy anglo box from ebay a few months back and for the first time in my life I feel like I’m getting somewhere with a musical instrument. I’m going canal boating in a couple of weeks and I would like to learn something nautical, drunken sailor, hornpipe or the like.
The problem is I can’t read music. I’ll get round to learning just not in the next two weeks. Does anyone have any tabs for a decent canal shanty?
Thanks
u may not have seen this (as above seemed to be was yr first post!) so go look at
http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php...84&hl=canal
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You have to go to
http://sounds.bl.uk/ but make sure you click the 'Restrict search to recordings everyone can play' option when you search. That way you get ones that you can listen to.
Yup -poor old BL, still valiantly struggling with legacy computers and squeezer friendly front-ends....
But could it be a nice long-term home for the ICA music archive... one wonders? Don't us know somebody at t'BL?
All the content on sounds.bl.uk is available if you are accessing it from a registered Higher/Further Education site. The restriction to other users is because of copyright - not steam-powered computers!
The available content includes all of - Traditional music in England, Circa 20,717 field recordings of traditional music including popular ballads, children's skipping songs, customs, music hall, soldiers' songs, folk tales and interviews.
Yes, tks for that
I was put off more by the layout, which threw me... Main page - the restricted (if your eyes are attracted to read it and mine are trained not to**) access message is first with search box underneath, and the general public access message is out to the right ("second option" for my brain scan). Might be better t'other way round......the masses first and elite second.
Then:
Do a search for concertina (I dont tick boxes as my brain says I have agreed to something and will get a loadof spam....!)
Up they come, I choose Alexander's Ragtime and bingo, up comes the toon play box
But I decide I dont want that, so let me search again and I think how helpful a box to the right and I automatically go to that 'new' search box on the right -- type in Tsar's Ragtime, press search and then get told u are not a student......................
thank goodness we only design websites for the day job....
That we are even giving tips to each other on how to use the thing shows it aint been thought through with illterate/WWW (webweakwally) punters like me in mind! Still, it must be doing wonders for my finger/brain/button layout patterns as i try to speed up my Rach II effort on my Anglo
** don't even ask about subsconscious blanking out of street and other ads... there's a whole marketing theory out there to prevent it...
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It was a lovely day Irene ,very hot in the garden where I was the first to play at about ten oclock.Not sure how I missed you LTD I was near the barn or the step dance area until about three thirty.In your video No 1, I sat in the vacant chair next to Diane (in the centre of the picture). We must have been walking past each other all day. Had a little chat with Chris Drinkwater.I was very tired all day after having three nights with nearly no sleep,(dog problems with a bitch in season) I had to stop for a cat nap on the way home,the safe route home!!
Repaired a broken spring today it just lasted until I got home.First time ever that the spring did not go whilst I was playing.
Al
PS Found another Duet player worth going just for that.
Tks LDT -- Much much fun (and jealousy at not having been able to go!!)
Just like the fun at the George Coaching Inn near London Bridge (first Monday of the month,,, except bank holidays, so today Monday the 7th from 20.00 on!! Entrée gratuite for the Rosbifs (not the drinks tho!). And Alan will have fixed his spring...though how he was mixing catnaps with dogs in heat... the mind boggles
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You have to go to
http://sounds.bl.uk/ but make sure you click the 'Restrict search to recordings everyone can play' option when you search. That way you get ones that you can listen to.
Yup -poor old BL, still valiantly struggling with legacy computers and squeezer friendly front-ends....
But could it be a nice long-term home for the ICA music archive... one wonders? Don't us know somebody at t'BL?
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try this one - I searched for concertina but ref says piano accordeon so trust someone knows the difference!
http://sounds.bl.uk/View.aspx?item=025M-C0...04XX-1200V0.xml
or try yr own search which should work from same page.
ACTUALLY - better to start a fresh search at
or u get trapped into a deadend unless u are becoming a student again (to get access from an institution of higher education etc) so no sounds available to the common man and certainly not gentlemen
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try this one - I searched for concertina but ref says piano accordeon so trust someone there knows the difference!
http://sounds.bl.uk/View.aspx?item=025M-C0...04XX-1200V0.xml
or try yr own search which should work from same page.
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Thank you all for being so vigilant!
Would still be v useful if our e-wizards can tell us how to post the pic and details of the item here, BEFORE they disappear.. that would mean many more eyes and memories on the qui vive for the future.....
here's my effort but may not be the right way.. but only took about a minute.
I copied the ebay page, pasted it into a word document, saved it and then attached the file thru upload box below right .. here goes
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Hi folks,
I'm new here and new to the English concertina. I just bought a Jack.
Thanks for the valuable information on these boards. It has helped orient me to the world of concertinas.
I transposed one of my favorite pieces of music to play. It will work with the Jack or Jackie concertinas, and probably some others. It's supposed to be played very slowly, so maybe some advanced beginners/intermediate players will enjoy it. I hope you can read my music script. No, I can't play it yet. Maybe in a few months!
Blake
Super - may I suggest two pages open on same screen:
one with Rostropivich playing (so one can hear and play along with his cello)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXnujMPt30Q
and the other screen with Podzol's score open
http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php...ost&id=4840
just the kind of thing we need for the massed concertinas at the future Proms - can u imagine bass concertinas resonating underneath - would be inspirational !
Being useless at working out which key I can play in on my box (as always) willl have to see if I can match some chords first and then some notes but that's the advantage of seeing if I am not too out of toon with old Mstislav).
Whoops - Rostropovich not ...pivich! My dodgy keywork again...!
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Hi folks,
I'm new here and new to the English concertina. I just bought a Jack.
Thanks for the valuable information on these boards. It has helped orient me to the world of concertinas.
I transposed one of my favorite pieces of music to play. It will work with the Jack or Jackie concertinas, and probably some others. It's supposed to be played very slowly, so maybe some advanced beginners/intermediate players will enjoy it. I hope you can read my music script. No, I can't play it yet. Maybe in a few months!
Blake
Super - may I suggest two pages open on same screen:
one with Rostropivich playing (so one can hear and play along with his cello)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXnujMPt30Q
and the other screen with Podzol's score open
http://www.concertina.net/forums/index.php...ost&id=4840
just the kind of thing we need for the massed concertinas at the future Proms - can u imagine bass concertinas resonating underneath - would be inspirational !
Being useless at working out which key I can play in on my box (as always) willl have to see if I can match some chords first and then some notes but that's the advantage of seeing if I am not too out of toon with old Mstislav).
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Anyone else going to Shrewsbury FF?
No; I don't do music events.
SLOW PRACTICE TUNES = USEFUL
http://www.shrewsburyfolkfestival.co.uk/tunebook/index.shtml
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Is it time to make a move for 2010 to have Concertinas at the Proms to follow Ukeleles??
www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/.../ukulele.shtml
Concertina is not new to Albert hall
and a massed concertina band could include simpletons playing only chords as well as the virtuosi/e playing the main toons.
AND OF COURSE FREE REED harmonicas and ....some bodhran percussion
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Is it time to make a move for 2010 to have Concertinas at the Proms to follow Ukeleles??
www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/.../ukulele.shtml
Concertina is not new to Albert hall
and a massed concertina band could include simpletons playing only chords as well as the virtuosi/e playing the main toons.
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So it is not likely to be worth $200?
Hmmm, not likely. Maybe half that.
BUT - if u have a special magnifying glass u can make out the message in invisible ink which says this was presented to Eric Honecker by the chief of the Stasi after it was used by George Blake when he was controller for the KGB of the Berlin network and he used it to send out musical signals out for encounters of the Third Man. So it automatically plays the Harry Lime tune.
Here's the tune but it sounds like a mandolin is blocking out the Anglo tone!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__yo60V8Nzg
With a provence like that could be worth thousands..........of pre-war Dmarks
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Thanks to someone somewhere along the line about trying out what you might buy on ebay, I went to look at a couple of scandalli accordions as I was able to go past.
Trying to learn the same basic toons on a keyboard to make it easier on the Anglo.
Nice seller and honest enough to say they did not know one note from another although they did say they worked.
Both had valve problems, some keys not even producing a note, a leakey note somewhere, and one was flat all over the place sounding like it needed a major retune, straps missing or poor....
So thanks for that advice.
BMW HONDA ANGLOS face the music for the weekend
in General Concertina Discussion
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For concertina playing bikers I have just discovered there is a rideout SATURDAY OCT 31ST 2009 PARK LANE CAR PARK – MIDDAY Central Londoin to protest against bike parking charges in what the organisers call WestMONSTER.
I should think a tina playing passenger would have a fair chance of getting on prime time tv news!! The two bears riding a bike on the video site are an indication....
http://www.notobikeparkingtax.com/