Kautilya
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Forgive me, but why do people dig out 7 year old threads and reply to them?
Whoops! Absolutely on your old threads labelling idea. This (I thought...) came up when I hit the "new content" button and hence my reply to the (I hope still alive in the US)respondent but I did not take in how old it was
:o Leyland came to mind as I missed what appears to be a regular (and free) concert by a few hours last week....found out too late
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Discussion on copyright on Melnet may be of interest to our composers and performers here..
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N-wRQAL2XY
there has to be a toon dying to come out from this...something like "Headless Hop"
What a lousy video, is all I can say! If they can train fleas to do circus tricks, maybe a louse could be taught to play the duet concertina. It would have to be a miniature one, of course. And the result would be quite probably 'hair-raising'.
Chris
You've got me scratching my head on how to respond to that one and I can't find the post by Geoff Crabb how he "cracked" a fleatina just before your birthday (Xmas) but here's one he made before on, where else but, Fleabay!!
I didn't know crabs could play concertinas. That's a new one on me. There ought to be a penalty claws somewhere. I am shell-shocked!
Chris
Thank goodness you did not try to hit me below the belt with that one or we could get into trouble with Paul the Black for playing innnuendo senza moderato... let's keep this up at the cerebrellows level. That said, I will see whether the athlete's foot anti-fungal spray, which I bought to use on my box, also kills beasties of the octave-leg kind. You are praps wrong on their abilities, coz they must be brilliant at running up and down the scales particularly on side-ways powered instruments - natural, flowing Maritina players (from Mars presumably).
You have inspired me to try to make my for-toon in the music halls by crossing a fiddler crab (which is also know for its dance calling abilities it seems)
with a toothed shore crab whose Latin name Paragrapsus quadridentatus clearly shows in translation its potential for tina playing (Four-finger, toothbone-button grasper)
http://museumvictoria.com.au/crust/mov1660i.html
I have been promised help from some Free-the-Reed organ-ICA liberation players living on the Crab Nebula.. [use your 3flat-2D#-2octave Inglitina to call up this message I just got from them and see whether u think they are suitable partners - they clearly aren't true ICA steakholders but I don't discriminate - I eat crabmeat AND veg.....:
The opposition has an orchestra which could do with a bit more life breathing into it with undercover tina players == as you can hear from the conductor whose newfangled plastic reedpan is leaking all over the place. (Any resemblance to Chris Gibb is deliberate, and yes, there are some George Inn players who have infiltrated it in the string section, and making some spring-pin money on the side, but can u spot them? They were more recognisable in the Store Wars piece particularly the gourd-i-hurdy player).
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N-wRQAL2XY
there has to be a toon dying to come out from this...something like "Headless Hop"
What a lousy video, is all I can say! If they can train fleas to do circus tricks, maybe a louse could be taught to play the duet concertina. It would have to be a miniature one, of course. And the result would be quite probably 'hair-raising'.
Chris
You've got me scratching my head on how to respond to that one and I can't find the post by Geoff Crabb how he "cracked" a fleatina just before your birthday (Xmas) but here's one he made before on, where else but, Fleabay!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N-wRQAL2XY
there has to be a toon dying to come out from this...something like "Headless Hop"
What a lousy video, is all I can say! If they can train fleas to do circus tricks, maybe a louse could be taught to play the duet concertina. It would have to be a miniature one, of course. And the result would be quite probably 'hair-raising'.
Chris
You've got me scratching my head on how to respond to that one and I can't find the post by Geoff Crabb how he "cracked" a fleatina before Xmas but here's one he made before on, where else but, Fleabay!!
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Usual knitpicking -- always spoils the guilt-free pleasure of a lethally good squeeze.
Why not use the Patented Chriscracker for the satisfaction of nailing with instant death.
Design modelled on the original concerNita, using high quality re-tuned steel reeds. When a reed contamination is spotted, reeds can also be pinged which lifts up blocking detritus, live or dead, for fast fingering.
Take one with you to every session and you will always be ready to deal with any new friends you might pick up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N-wRQAL2XY
there has to be a toon dying to come out from this...something like "Headless Hop"
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[quote name='bellowbelle' date='02 October 2003 - 01:43 PM' timestamp='1065102214' .
Start digging here and work outwards
Leyland Accordion Club
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I am wondering if Iris Bishop's concertina playing follows the same pattern as her knitting?
It's great to have a second career to supplement one's income as a musician, as it must be quite difficult to make a good living soley from performing. Reminds me of the out of work contortionist, who had difficulty making both ends meet! 
Chris
You don't expect us to double up in laughter at a weak-kneed joke like that surely?
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Hi all,
This morning Anne had a phone call (asking for me by name) from an outfit called Tech-on Support,
Chris
rather a long listen/viewing but reinforces the need for care:
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I reported it too. This guy also came on last week, this item and a Wheatstone. Exactly the same pics. I just report them now as they disappear as soon as they get to c.net.
Any suggestions as to how one can check out this person's other stuff without the first reference or his ebay name etc.......???
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Yes, our copy has arrived.
Chris
Yes, tis true the full number of the Beast is 666, which refer to ICA chairman's stickey-uppey-eyebrows and satanically delightful curled moustache -- credit where credit is due (hellspeak for subscriptions are now due or new ones welcome - details at
http://www.concertina.org/ica/
And yes, three booklets arrived and I cannot believe what good value they are (as part of the subs) if only for the toons inside which would cost a whack if ordered from a regular music shop.
[Jon, that's a pint of red Kriek shandy u owe me, as agreed. Delete this from email after reading
:ph34r: Yours for eternity in Aculard: WHO, as always, recommends: "if you have not enough blow at least keep on sucking the air that is our lifeblood-- tho always test for concertinitis antibodies before using your sharps on the heaving bellows]. 
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Hi Alan , nice idea . I enjoyed that session at Bradfield last year , Put another nickle in the nickleodeon etc etc.
Will the session be for all types of instruments or just concertinas?
All instruments.
I may even take my swanee whistle
Al
Are you going to bring a kazoo too?
Then you could have a game of swanee/kazoo.
There are already 2 kazoos in my bag (plus combs and greaseproof paper, an ocarina which still defeats me and a water-fed bird warbler but latter only works with highland mineral water for Scottish toons). Can someone lend me a Welsh triangle?
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Hi Alan , nice idea . I enjoyed that session at Bradfield last year , Put another nickle in the nickleodeon etc etc.
Will the session be for all types of instruments or just concertinas?
All instruments.
I may even take my swanee whistle
Al
Wot abaht a Day concerto in the key of W (Warwick) or at least a special toon for Swanees (plural) with massed instruments?
I have just cleaned out my dark brown/blackish 1920s merrican one** and fear I should have used grease instead of oil as it is a bit (air) leaky on parts of the slide.
If you (and hopefully others) have yours, I am game to learn a special toob toon for Warwick.....??
:blink: ** 4th visual at:
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http://sniff.numachi.com/pages/tiSWTHAMES;ttSWTHAMES.html
http://www.8notes.com/scores/6521.asp?ftype=midi
I am hoping someone will tell me that I should be playing the melody on the right side.
You should be playing the melody on the right side.
If you play music, as written, much of the melody will drop onto the left hand. This will cause the effect of single line melody, without much scope for chords etc. If you transpose the music up an octave (in practice, it's easier to read the music "as is", but work out the fingering as if it was written an octave higher) this will move most melodies onto the right hand, freeing up the left hand for chords.
The only "down" side to this is that, on occasions, the music will be up the squeaky end on the right hand. If this is a problem, drop that section of the music back to the octave in which it is written. This might sound to be an odd practice, but seems to have been a traditional solution to this type of problem.
right Peter, Right... and squeaky 
:( Is it unwise to tackle the challenge by hitting 2 buttons (and sometimes 3)simultaneously on the left with one finger to get to get chord effects and a "richer" sound (so avoiding the squeaky and sometimes unpleasant upper right octaves?)
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Another alternative is an octave triplet, or a triplet of the same pitch, with the octave held on underneath, this reduces the choppy effect.
Indeed, that's one of the alternatives sugested by Mick Bramich in his book. Anyway, I've tried to 'triplet' or 'roll' a LHS note with a RHS one - anyone -. At enough speed, you can't tell the real pitch of it.
Edited to write: Took me a while to realise tht there's not reason for to carbon copy the phrasing, articulation & ornamentation of my fidlle tunes on concertina. It'a a totally different beast, so I do add or suppress certain things when it comes to be played in the box
Cheers,
Fer
MIDI
It may be my ears but reading Gerry's score link above and listening to the midi version below, the triplet seems to have completely vanished (click on Polka half way down page).
http://tonyupton.tripod.com/miditune.html
Fascinating discussion as I have only recently discovered (!) the F# on second from bottom left G row (20 Anglo)when trying to do "Sweet thames flow softly" toon on left hand C row, and am putting my left pinkie in full training...to reach down and back and then pick up the push G on top button C row with index.
http://sniff.numachi.com/pages/tiSWTHAMES;ttSWTHAMES.html
http://www.8notes.com/scores/6521.asp?ftype=midi
I also have two F#s on right hand, one at bottom and one at top of G row (pushing). But at presumably an octave higher they would sound odd if I used for the STFsoftly F#when I am playing the toon on the low left side.
I have 'never knowingly used those right G F# buttons, but presume they are standard or is there a new mystery for me to discover?
I am hoping someone will tell me that I should be playing the melody on the right side.
Then I can ask why I seem to be playing all the melodies on the left and not on the right side... as it seems most folk do and say they have trouble bringing in the left.......Praps that is for the left brain right brain thread somewhere else... I may have two dead brain halves....caused by my ever 'louder' deafness
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About 6 months ago I decided I wanted to pick up an instrument and after listening to
Thanks,
Sam
Check out here for latest on Alan Day's online/downloadableAnglo tutor for starters - free and by ear.....read to very end before clicking a site as it has been moved it seems.
BTW - the site search engine can be weak. u may be right to ask a quick question and get a pointe as folk did with the faqs.
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We once had a didge, djembe and bones playing along to Fanny Power. Quite nice once you gave up and got into it. They had got riddim!!
I think the forum autospeller took over there - how did you get "riddofem" from the session (like the Battering of the Flattened didge in Steve's post?) - did u "beat" them to death with Drybone's jaw of an ass or was it your wild offspring Samson wot did it for em?
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I remember the late great Dave Roberts of Blowzabella used to play that on D/G melodeon in the early days in Morris Sessions with the Earls of Essex and when it came to the F nat everybody would sing the note in unison. melodeons have come on a bit now!
Genius! I intend to develop that tactic extensively - when the George hurdy gurdier switches to pipes he sometimes tells me off because I do a deep, nasal, reverberating 'hmmmmmm' to match the drone -- although it sounds great (to ME).
The voice will reach the notes that the fingers can not.
ta v much
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Hi Kautilya,
A lovely air for sure. Actually it predates O'Carolan. I believe it's by 17th Century harper Rory Dall O'Cathain.
Enjoy!
Molly
Indeed, was composed by Rory Dall.
Kautilya, the score of Breizh Partitions seems to be in D, and always I've heard this tune played in G... I think John Wild's abc's are more accurate. This is, too, an easy peasy tune for anglo beginners - mind the F natural! -.
By the way, IMHO the best program around for to manage abc files:
http://abcnavigator.free.fr/abcnvgt.php?lang=eng
Cheers,
Fer
Mni tks John Molly and Fergus! I wiill now go and look for that F reezing natural....
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Any kind soul know where to find score, abc, midi for TABHAIR DOM DO LÁMH (Give me your hand) and praps another name Dancing Willow, please?
composer Turlough O'Carolan
tks
found it at last:
http://breizhpartitions.free.fr/en/download_score.php/438_Tabhair_Dom_Do_L%C3%A1mh
well known apparently but for those who aint heard:
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Very good, Martyn. Right on both counts, except that the French polka is spelt Polka de l'Aveyron, I think. Embarassing to see myself hiding in that lot. No wonder I was keeping my head down!
Chris
And the moneychangers shall be thrown out of the Temple (unless they offer a small commission...) The notes surreptitiously seen accompanying tune can be found at "Sur le (20) Pound d'Avignon"
Just realised the ITM version is Sur le Punt(20) d'Avignon....
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http://www.youtube.com/user/InsightandMind#p/a/u/0/GSfoy6YUzn0
:rolleyes:can't remember name of tune(s)but the players will .... so wait a little and one will surely tell you/me; and where to find the dots.......
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Will it be allowed out to play and if so where?!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330392312805&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
photo attached in case ebaypic vanishes
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quote: long lost, never published, undocumentable page....
One should point out that this is a forum of scientific excellence...(Hem, hem!)
So show us the docs! Or as they say in lego-musico circles :"push up or shqueeze up".
And if they show a tortoise shell model then we will report you to ConSCHMERSHina for handling dodgey goods and your fate will be to be sealed up in your soundchamber.
It is clear you are simply trying to engineer a phoney price increase in the market for tina memorabilia.
[u will need a standard issue SHMERSH UV reader to see this next para]:
PS - PM me! I have found some DryBones in the shape of a tina in the shed and they could be a good seller.... 20 per cent cut for you! I have already composed a tune for the advertising campaign. It can only be played on this instrument as it is in the key of Z#
and PLEASE, wear some clothes when u are next bellowsing around pretending to play an "Air Concertina" at a session:
Jeffries scam on Ebay?
in Buy & Sell
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Maybe Irene and I could learn to get the hang of his drift if we see his various nomsdeplumee and his musicodificus operandi, or is that thread-drift?
We're back to the old issue of grabbing a pic of the webpage/item so there is a record, independent of the ebay number....
I regularly just copy a page, cut and then paste (don't use paste special) into a Word file and save so I remember how much I paid last time for my Farley's Rusks and it works ok.
see attached: