LDT
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As to length, I suggest you set them such that with your hands fully engaged you can see a little daylight (1/8 inch)
what's that in metric?
On the topic of nails, first, my compliments, they're quite nice. However, you've received good advice from Rod. While it may not be impossible to play with nails somewhat longer, it'll be harder.that's the longest they ever get. Before I trim them. I cant stand them cut down really short theres at least got to be a couple of millimeters of white showing.
Regarding playing across the rows - actually, you would play across the rows in the key of G as well as in the key of D. And for the D note Noel Hill taught me (15 years ago, anyway) to use the Press D, 1st finger, on the inner left hand row, in preference to the Draw D on the right hand, 2nd finger, middle row.The choice of which D you use, above, would determine your choice of an A note immediately after the D: either the middle row 1st. finger draw, or the inner row 3rd. finger draw.
Gets a bit confusing, eh?
erm..yeah. Especially trying to imagine it in my head from what is written on the page...
cross rowing = Rowing a boat after an argument
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I want to be able to carry the concertina with me/take on trips etc. but all I have to put it in is the cardboard box it came in. Any suggestions for cheap bags or boxes? Or has anyone got a sewing pattern so I can make one? What makes good container? Does it need to be padded or have a hard bottom (I might be able to make some from my patchwork reminants).
I glued up a cube out of 12mm exterior grade plywood, sliced it about a quarter of the way down from the top, added hinges and a handle and lined it with some padding. It looks better than I expected finished with a few coats of tung oil, and although not watertight it is strong. I can post a picture if anyone is interested.
stevo
ooh, I'd love to see
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... a loose reedplate will buzz on both, pull and push, will it not?
It ain't necessarily so.
you want to know something odd.....
I closed the concertina up completely then opened again and the buzz dissapeared. But then last night it buzzed of a different button.
I seem to have a
phantom moving buzz.I thought it was my fault because the first buzz appeared after my scarf got sucked into the bellows a bit. Or that maybe it was the way I was playing.
sefIt's 30 button one, if I'm not mistaken. I wonder if it can be returned? If so, return it with the speed of lighning, you'll save yourits got a years garuntee (well that's what it says on the recipt I got it from Hobgoblin) but I have to arrange to go up to London again if I want to take it back. And I can't get there till next month.
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Fingerless gloves. Makes my hand for the straps and stops it chaifing.
So; that's playing outdoors, in the winter months, sorted!
Would you say having long nails an advantage or disadvantage in reaching the buttons?Disadvantage, if you learn to play in the "across rows" style, and need to slide your fingers on/off buttons.
Regards,
Peter.
I might get some lacy fingerless gloves for summer
well this is how long my nails are
What do you mean by across rows style? Is that hard?
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Ok..I did a search of the forum for stuff on handstraps (totaly confused too many to read through)
I'm still not quite sure how tight they should be. But I find the last notch it too tight and the next one up too loose. And it kinda rubs a bit so I had a brainwave. Fingerless gloves. Makes my hand for the straps and stops it chaifing.
anyway other question. Would you say having long nails an advantage or disadvantage in reaching the buttons?
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Hmm, I recall again hearing Micheal O'Raghallaigh talking about use of air button. He reckoned use of air button was more or less inversely proportional to players skill - not his exact words but to that effect. I think he said a good anglo player using all the button options hardly needed to touch the air button at all and could balance the air in the bellows by choice of appropriate buttons.
But, can you not just use a bit less pressure on the bellows to play a bit more softly. I met someone a while back who played a Lachenal similar to mine but you wouldn't want to be in the same room - it was that loud it was almost unpleasant. They were really working the bellows hard and pumping it out.
Exactly.....volume is all about bellows pressure alone.
so are you saying to move slower or more gently for a quieter sound?
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Pete,
Here is another photo of a Koot Brits C/G anglo concertina that was built this month.
oooh..that's pretty.
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Hard case: best storage of instrument in proper position; best protection against severe trauma, like tree limbs falling on the case; most waterproof; generally small
Soft camera type case: if it has lots of padding, best protection against shock from jarring, dropping, etc. Light. Generally not too expensive.
Soft camera case without substantial padding: worthless.
I think I will make one. Pad it with quilting (wadding) but give it strength and hardness with interfacing/buckram..
Best of both worlds then
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sigh. everyone's a critic aren't they? meanies.
i'm sure you'll be ace in no time at all. can't wait to hear it
here you go:
a nice patchwork quilted bagI for one will need to see a photograph of the bag.
of course.....Try to find a copy of this book:-Handbook for Anglo-Chromatic Concertina Specifically aimed at
by Roger Watson the Hohner concertina,
Wise Publications but applicable to other
Distrib. by Music Sales Ltd makes. A bit perfunctory
8/9 Frith Street but covers the essentials.
London W1V 5TZ Good chord list.
England
And if you can't find a copy......get back to me {wink}
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I want to be able to carry the concertina with me/take on trips etc. but all I have to put it in is the cardboard box it came in. Any suggestions for cheap bags or boxes? Or has anyone got a sewing pattern so I can make one? What makes good container? Does it need to be padded or have a hard bottom (I might be able to make some from my patchwork reminants).
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..how do you play quietly?
Hi LDT,
You will not find this easy until the bellows are broken in, but use of the right thumb on the air valve, whilst playing, can control the flow of air, and, therefore, the volume.
It's a tricky technique to master, but my thumb always hovers on/near the air valve to ensure:
(1) The "correct" amount of air in the bellows.
(2) I can play louder/softer, when required.
thank for the reply. So just to clarify does that mean holding the button down or tapping it occasionly or pushing it down halfway?
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hey lady d! you got a scarlatti then? how's it sound?
I'm still having fun just getting it to make a noise. lol! Although my family keep asking me whether they can have a go. My mums already asked me if I can learn play a tango on it.
a nice noise i hope
Well I didn't get the usual chorus of 'shut up' I get when I practice playiing the recorder or penny whistle.
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I wondered before the nieghbours start to complain..how do you play quietly?
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hey lady d! you got a scarlatti then? how's it sound?
I'm still having fun just getting it to make a noise. lol! Although my family keep asking me whether they can have a go. My mums already asked me if I can learn play a tango on it.
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I know you lot will probably throw rotten fruit at me....but I went to the Hobgobilin store yeasterday and I had a go on some and (yor right the cheap 20 button ones even sounded cheap to my untrained ear) but I tried one I liked a 30 button anglo not a Rochelle though and couldn't resist buying it.
it wasn't until I got home that I realised I should have asked the make. lol
Must have been dazled by the salesman. lol!
My mum has already said could I learn a to play a tango.
btw. I think I might sew myself a nice patchwork quilted bag as it came just in the box.
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"i gotta case of the squeezies!"
"why are you calling me on the phone? i'm right here. you look fine."
"no, i have concertina acquisition disorder. i'm about to burst. i must leave now."
lol! I'll have to try that one.
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I recorded a little trifle arranged from a string quartet, the theme to "Fawlty Towers." I hope you enjoy it. Please, if you are riff-raff, don't watch the video, or listen to it either.
Speaking as a newbie (who is would like to play a concertina) I love it
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Euro 265 in Ireland (£220 including trackable postage), with no additional import and tax charges if you're anywhere in the EU.
is that new or secondhand?
New, you'd rarely see a secondhand one. People tend to hang onto them, even after they upgrade...
that's a good sign if people keep them even when they get upgraded. Shows its worth the money.
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I should have mentioned The Music Room price includes p&p which makes it look a tad more reasonable, even so an imported box will probably work out cheaper depending on shipping charges etc.
As I've mentioned before, I have the Rochelle available for only Euro 265 in Ireland (£220 including trackable postage), with no additional import and tax charges if you're anywhere in the EU.
is that new or secondhand?
(I'll add to my list)
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When you listen to concertina recordings on Youtube, is the sound quality of the reeds or the way it's played that you find more attractive? Duets are often played with lush chords and counterpoint at the same time the melody is being played. Englishes tend to be played more sparely and anglos can be pretty spare to almost as full as a duet.
-- Rich --
I think its the lushness and they sound denser and thicker..if that makes any sense.
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sounds like a bargain. Do you ship to the UK then?The Button Box sells both models for the same price £178 (we even have a used one at the moment for £155) . I don't know how much shipping and UK tax would be though it seems that there might be some savings by taking advantage of our weak dollarWe sell/ship and all over the world, but we restrict our rentals to just North America.
-- Rich --
I shall keep that in mind.
I think you'll find that your preference of "sound quality" will change as you come to appreciate concertinas more, and as you move up to better concertinas your choice of better sound quality with become broader.listening ot the clips on youtube...I like the sound of the duet most..but I suspect that's way out of my price range.
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Having said that, G/D Anglos are great for playing English traditional music on, and if you're going to be (eventually) playing with others, that tuning goes well with fiddles and melodeons.
I think I'll be playing on my own for a while...all the people I know who play music (my siblings and cousins)are more into 'rock'. lol!
There's absolutely nothing wrong with starting on a C/G Rochelle and then trading up to a better instrument in G/D if that's what suits you.I think this is why I need to try some first see what I like the sound of best.
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Or worse, the world of harmonicas. Unless you are dead centered on Blues the way Hawling Wolf played it, you are swimming the the vast ocean of different tunings, systems, all of which look identical.
Oh I managed to play twinkle twinkle little star on a harmonica once...but it made me go all dizzy. lol!
I am quite fancying the Anglo, and I'd rather go for what is a popular/common tuning. Is that 'D'?
I don't want to make a final decision till I've had a go on one though. I don't think there's any sops which sell them in southend so I might pop up to London.
The Button Box sells both models for the same price £178 (we even have a used one at the moment for £155) . I don't know how much shipping and UK tax would be though it seems that there might be some savings by taking advantage of our weak dollarsounds like a bargain. Do you ship to the UK then?
Not that I'm aware of, if you delve around the Spiers and Boden website long enough you'll find reference to the MacCann. We went to see Eliza Carthy backed by S&B a while ago and the MacCann got an airing that night, I was pretty impressed with his playing. -
Try selling your wife/husband/children/soul into slavery
unfortunately I have none of the above to sell
*Gleaned from elsewhere* LDT is a Spiers and Boden/Bellowhead fan so raunchy English style trad is what rocks the boat. Anglo or English concertinas probably fit the bill (but probably hasn't noticed that John Boden (rarely) plays a pretty mean MacCann duet).oooh...is there a clip on youtube anywhere of that?
LDT: Keep saving, you'll need double + your existing funds to buy a decent starter instrument in the UK. Anything less will put you off forever believe me.£240? It will be the most i've ever invested in an instrument.
I'd better get saving....or ask for contributions from family.*puts tin marked concertina fund on desk* I may threaten them with playing the recorder if they don't pay up.
Welcome to the wacky (and expensive unsure.gif ) world of concertina playing.Thank you for the welcome
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that's very elegant.
Mines still a work in progress. Because I haven't time to put it together myself. I've given the complete patchwork section and my design over to my sister (she did a gcse in textiles) who's putting the whole thing together for me.