Rhomylly
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My first session was labeled a "beginner's/slow session where sometimes we play up to the speed of a funeral dirge."
HAH!
In my beginner's opinion, everything was played at breakneck speed, and I didn't know any of the tunes they were playing. In time, I started to pick up some -- this session very courteously provided the "dots" for everything.
I miss that session.
At the local session I started, I still don't play about half the time -- because it's a combination bluegrass/celtic session, and I don't know all the bluegrass tunes they know.
But I wouldn't give up the fellowship I feel during the session for the world.
Jody --- I found out last week that my spring break coincides with Palestine Festival, so I will be there, come hell or high water. I was there last year and learned SO MUCH just by hanging out with other concertina players for 3 days. I can't wait to return, and to absorb everything you have to teach us!
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HELEN!!!!
Where've you been???
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I usually lurk but finally we have a topic on which I know something. I'm a VERY beginning concertina player but a very experienced rapper dancer.
Welcome to C-Net, Randall! What team(s) have you danced with?
Rhomylly
an old rapper groupie/roadie.
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What a timely post. I was just getting ready to work up a couple rapper tunes. Ten Penny Bit and, a common one from my childhood rapper-watching days: Irish Washerwoman. Will I ever work them up to 160? Probably not. But it will be fun to learn them all the same.
Common understanding (as opposed to actual verifiable historic fact) says that rapper was started after the mid-1700's, i.e. after the invention of spring steel. The swords, when both handles are held in one hand, VERY much resemble a tool used to clean dirt or shedding fur off horses (think: coal dust).
The footwork is very similar to English clogging. Common understanding also has it that rapper, as opposed to seasonally-oriented morris and longsword, has always been a "competition" dance. Informal competition, of course.
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I play one of my own most of the time, now, as does Tom Lawrence, Tom Glynn, and Asher Perkins (who, if he competes in Ireland, next year, well may be be the next All-Ireland Champion in the under 18 category), and other quite good players. Or perhaps we are not quite up to standard???
I, personally, am honored to be counted (albeit much more humbly) among such fine Edgley players!
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im sure their are a lot others better able to comment, not a pro are nothing close. and dont rekon ill ever be, but i do play mine probley 10 hours aweek. started with a homer, to a 22 button Lachenal, now a 30 button Lachenal. i would hate to think that when i wanted to up grade again, i would see ifn im worthy. i have checked with a local maker of hybreds if he will let me hang around and see whats into making them so i would know, and we should start getting together in a couple weeks. you see im doing what i can, beeing a preacher ill probley never have enough cash for much better than what i have. but im not going to whin about it, im going to try my best to do something about it. any way i noticed your form Wisconsin, so you shouldnt have no trouble in finding some cheese to go along with all that whin. sorry about that, i had to add the last. dont worrie what cha dont have, be greatfull what cha do. life is too short to try and keep up with the jones. jmho
well said, chainyanker, my friend!!!!
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It's all in that original post, but in a super-condensed notetaking-friendly format:
1. Casual fans of the concertina often buy expensive, top-of-the line instruments.
a. Beginner or mid-level instruments would be more than sufficient for these peoples' needs.
b. They want these instruments simply because they want the best, not because lower instruments aren't
sufficent for their needs.
c. Often, these concertinas go unused.
And who exactly the bloody hell are you to be making these pronouncements?
You know nothing about me, my playing ability, or my playing potential. No one knows how well I may be playing in 5 years, in 20 years. Including me. Yet you lump me in the category of "unworthy" because I will probably never earn my living playing concertina.
I would say that you probably know none of this about my fellow respondents, either.
Yet you sit in judgement of us all.
Must be nice to be God.
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Just on the off chance that someone here is so enamored of their new concertina that they'd like to rehome a piano or button accordion.
I'd be interested in talking price.
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The tour's coming to New Mexico???
I am so applying now.
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there is probably little or no 'carry over' from what I have learned in the six-hole arena.
Only in that you already have some tunes in your head.
However, and I say this as a 3-year concertina player who tried pennywhistle for 3 months:
You might want to start out playing completely new-to-you tunes on your concertina, and avoid the ones you know how to play on your whistle -- for now.
Why?
Muscle memory.
The muscle sequences you use to play a tune on a pennywhistle are vastly different than the muscle sequences you will be learning to be able to play the same tune on a concertina. And it will slow you down.
Case in point: I first learned "Road to Linsdoonvarna" on pennywhistle. Learning it on the concertina was three times harder than it would have been if I'd never learned it on the whistle. Because the muscles remembered something completely different and kept trying to do that instead. The results were...scary.
Check out the Wakker Rochelle anglo concertina. I'm hearing good things about them, and they are not too expensive -- in our world, at least
We're all used to paying considerably more than $15 for a quality instrument.And welcome to the wonderful world of squeezing!
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The English is generally considered (generally, mind you, there are exceptions) to be the kind of concertina to get for song accompaniment.
Since the difference between the Jack and the Jackie is range, I guess that would depend on whether you're a baritone or a tenor
You didn't say what genre of music your band plays, so let us know and we can probably recommend some recordings to give you an idea of what's possible!
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I like the idea of waiting to see what comes up in the buy and sell forum. You can get some great deals from people who really want their instruments go to someone they know will appreciate them.
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I played my 20-button Hohner to death in six months of almost daily playing. Even Bob Tedrow couldn't permanently fix it.
Pay the extra $50 or so and get a Wakker Rochelle, if you want my $.02
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Thanks for the info!
I may try to pick one up as a spare, RenFaire (with all forms of inclement weather), etc. box.
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I'm probably not alone in accumulating concertinas ...
Jay,
If it's of any comfort to you, you are not alone ...
Anyone else ever put themselves into this fix? Overextended on concertinas, selling stuff to pay for their habit, and a spouse that just can't undertstand why anyone would want more than one concertina?The condition even has a name: COAD (Concertina Obsessive Acquisition Disorder) and has been discussed here previously.
Yes it does, and unforturtunately, the disease is still spreading. I am sad to report that no one has conquored it yet as none have accepted my generous offer to take their excess concertinas off their hands.
I mean really people, admitting you have a problem is only the first step, not the final step
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Bill
Hi, my name is Rhomylly. I have COAD.
Everyone, now: "Hi, Rhomylly!"
I admit that I am powerless to stop buying concertinas!
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What kind of concertina did you have as a boy?
Anglos are recommended for Irish music, a majority of the time.
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There's got to be more than two of us, Theodore!
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My guess is they are referring to Chemnitzer players, who I think come more from the mid-Western states where God-Bless-XXX-and-USA items are more common (certainly more common than the Northeast where I come from). Nevertheless an unusual association. And not something I would wear.
That was my guess, too. I am from the midwest, hope to move back there soon, and I wouldn't wear it either.
I am, however, looking forward to wearing my concertina definition t-shirt with pride.
If anyone wants to send me a "I play concertina and I vote" bumper sticker, I promise to put it on the car with pride. (I actually saw one of these once, only it was 'I play accordion' -- on a pickup truck in Washington DC of all places!)
Now if only CafePress offered super-sized shirts so I could wear a C-Net one, too!
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I'm not sure what to make of that either!
I did just order one of the "concertina definition" t-shirts. I got it in black with white lettering. I look terrible in tan.
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I had a Jack. It was a little too big and heavy for my comfort, but I was pleased with the sound and quality of the instrument.
Usually in paypal, there is a box where you can type a brief message to the person you're sending money to. I'd also email them and say, "You should be getting $$$ from me for a Jack/ie and a case."
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concertina "kän(t)-s&r-'tE-n&
n. Not an accordion
There could also be a little arrow pointing appropriately and a small sign saying "press here for a sound sample"
I want this one!!! In blue, please.
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Not only in playable condition, but much better all-around quality.
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This whole topic could provide the material for a good scholarly article if someone has the time and inclination to research and write it.
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Hmm.
Hmmm.
I guess this is a wierd reason and place to announce this, but I am quitting my job Friday, and will be going back to school this fall to hopefully finally finish my Bachelor's...eventually.
I am taking the dreaded, boring requisite English 104 Writing the Research Paper this fall. I think I may have found my topic
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Maybe the forum could come to a consensus about a better definition and create a new design.The Concertina
With knowing touch, and gentle squeezing,
It makes a sound both pleased and pleasing.
Us ladies could appropriately wear this shirt too, you know...
What A Nice 'mistake' I Made!
in General Concertina Discussion
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I love John and Tony! What a felicitous mistake!