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i've had two Lachenals with their bellows, excellnet
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Good news!
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I know Josephine as an accordion player, has she made any specifically concertina recordings and does she teach?
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There are earlier threads. Just search in the box on the front page of conc.net. Zulu, South African Music, Squash Box etc
Harry Scurfiled and Dan Worrall are pretty knowledgeable. Dan has some info in his admirable book
Bastari seems to be the make and it's used as a generic term for a concertina I believe
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Thanks a brave man in apartheid times. I was watching a BBC $ proghramme last night on the making of paul Simon's Graceland album and struck by how Diamonds on the Soles of Her Shoes took the concertina and accordion style and built on it. Clegg was doing the same sort of stuff, as a white South African, earlier on but got no mention which I thought was an omission.
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I spoke to Chris Foster who lives in Iceland and he said they sing a lot in 1,5 harmonies and play slim dulcimers tuned that way. He also said the irish monks were there in their skin boats before the Vikings. Did the Inuit reach there?
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using Do Re mi etc I am getting better at going up and down the scale and also hitting notes accurately at random witha visual aid . I'm starting to do it with the letters of the noptes and the dots on the page too. I can now hear them mentally. I suppose eventually it sinks into the memory and becomes a more automatic recall.. Just lots of practice and repetition I think.
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I find it very helpful to search sound archives via British Library and EFDSS etc to get as close to the original rendition. There are so many good sources now available from Topic, Veteran, MusTrad and so on on CD reissues.
Try Dave Eyre's web site for second hand copies of folk books.http://www.collectorsfolk.co.uk/
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I seem to remember that Dan Worrall had something lke this made for him.
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Nice, what does Muneira mean? i've heard similar played in Catalunya, Spain on those reeded oboe-like instruments that are very loud ,like bombardes.Was it a graile (I've see and heard them in France too)
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i'm still very interested in what databases it would use or would it be able to trawl all the internet sources?
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Some say Nic Jones' Penguin Eggs was an allusion to the original book. I always thought it came from the song 'In the little dark engine room'
May mate calls it the English Book of Penguin Songs , we have songs about Cuckoos in the Nest, and Skylarks and Bonny Goshawks, so how about this shifty little scrote?
Go to 0.50 min. for the hilarious bit, look at those expressions, true Charlie Chaplin!Where's me dress suit? -
Here's some fascinating info to use in introducing this great song! If you are prone to long introductions
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Another of Noel with Seamus Begley
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I was reading a very interesting piece on Tim Edey in The Living Tradition and he mentions spending hours with his earphones on playing along to Sharon Shannon et al. I got a free set from The Economist magazine so tried them (I've never really used earphones strangely, maybe at my age I should be glad of that!) I was playing along to the new Caitlin Nic Gabhan CD and it did seem to make a difference even though I couldn't really hear myself! What have other folk experienced? I just played with my eyes shut and focussed on the tune and let my fingers find their own way (much as I do in a session where I sort of know the tune and want to learn but wouldn't say I had it completely drilled in, keeping the volume down)
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I commented elsewhere that the scraper board imageon the cover, by Tunnicliffe says a klot about how folk song is still perceived, a timeless rural image. Maybe nowadays a Traveller with a Transit would be a more likely custodian
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Pimp my box eh? Thanks Lester. Now all we need is a decent little Anglo to work on.
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I think accordions in D tuning were introduced quite early on as witness P J Conlon so thay could do what fiddlers did. C/G Anglos limited players at first but I agree that the accidentals on 30 button concertinas were there for chromatic use of the box as witness Fred Kilroy et al.
I'm stillvery interested as to why the anglo didn't stick around in the US.
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Look at this on a kiidies' box! Well done Hector of Australia!
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A lovely book and a worthy successor to the original.
http://www.efdss.org/news/newsId/273
One for the library and lots of tunes in G and D!
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I've just started reading the new Penguin book on English Folk Song by Steve Roud and Julia Bishop and they stress the massive influence on 'folk' music of the minstrel shows in the UK.
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I wonder whether traditional musicians in the USA had already established a repertoire on fiddle etc and Anglo players on C/G instruments couldn't break in, in the keys they played in. In Ireland it took a Paddy Murphy to work it out in the common fiddle keys. William Mullally was apparently unusual in having a good Englsih made Anglo concertina tuned in D.
I do accept what Dan says about people playing on their own in octaves , in C etc for dancing but the impact of records by top musicians may have had the effect of putting amateur musicans off. I don't know but it is worth looking at the reasons for the tailing off of concertinas whereas cheap accordions remained in popular use in various communities.
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Great, thanks!
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Sought but could not find, any links?
Josephine Marsh
in General Concertina Discussion
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Thanks, she commented on the sleeve that her dad played an old German concetina and she swapped with him to play together