Cream-T Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Absolutely, follow Jim's advice! Most Irish tunes appear (to me) to be made up by bits of other tunes - I think you have composed a new tune "in the tradition" and should proudly present the tune for us all to hear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik Müller Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Absolutely, follow Jim's advice! Most Irish tunes appear (to me) to be made up by bits of other tunes - I think you have composed a new tune "in the tradition" and should proudly present the tune for us all to hear! Aooollright - it's coming up tonight. "Most Irish tunes appear (to me) to be made up by bits of other tunes". True - compare B part of "The Bank of Ireland" with the B part of (the two-part) "Spike Island Lasses"... /Henrik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik Müller Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Absolutely, follow Jim's advice! Most Irish tunes appear (to me) to be made up by bits of other tunes - I think you have composed a new tune "in the tradition" and should proudly present the tune for us all to hear! Aooollright - it's coming up tonight. "Most Irish tunes appear (to me) to be made up by bits of other tunes". True - compare B part of "The Bank of Ireland" with the B part of (the two-part) "Spike Island Lasses"... /Henrik Right, folks - here it is. I did a new version, close enough to the original. Got to stop this, or get a web hotel - my measly 10 Megabytes are almost worn down... /Henrik P.S. We need a Swede to explain what a "guckulåt" is... my wife, traditional Swedish fiddler, is not at home (probably wouldn't have approved the recording anyway - when the cat is out ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henk van Aalten Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Right, folks - here it is. I did a new version, close enough to the original. For my ears it sounds very authentic Scandinavian. A great tune Henrik!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Stallard Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Hey, that's pretty cool sounding! What key is it in? I want to figure that one out. It makes me think of a lone musician, sitting out on a dock, or a fog-covered hilltop, introspectively rolling off a tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cream-T Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 (edited) I love the tune, Henrik! You've inspired me to keep the recorder reeling while I doodle along, I'll give it a go on the weekend. Maybe something worthwhile comes out of it (and maybe not). PS: For Jeff: I've just tried to play along to the tune - the chords are A major, G (major and minor?) and D minor. Very Swedish - the devil knows the key/mode it's in! Edited November 30, 2005 by Cream-T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 We need a Swede to explain what a "guckulåt" is... my wife, traditional Swedish fiddler, is not at home (probably wouldn't have approved the recording anyway - when the cat is out ) Well, I know a låt is a tune, and i was guessing that "gucku" might mean "cuckoo", but the bird is "gök". Maybe ennistraveler knows? I certainly know the saying, "When the cat's away, the mice will play," but would your wife appreciate being called a "cat"? I'm glad you gave us your tune before she kills you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 For my ears it sounds very authentic Scandinavian. Well, if Henrik composed it, then it is absolutely "authentic Scandinavian". Most Irish tunes appear (to me) to be made up by bits of other tunes... I think most tunes in any tradition are made up of parts that have been used in other tunes. The number of possible parts is far fewer than the number of possible combinations. In fact, if you take the parts small enough... everything that Bach or Mozart ever composed was built entirely of individual notes that had been used by others before them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susanne Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 (edited) Very nice!!!!!!! What is it, a schottische?? Now you're giving me inspiration to play Swedish tunes...(I've mostly played Swedish hymns so far, or back-up, or Irish ballads) I have plenty of tunes like that. I don't know what a guckulåt is...never heard of them. Sorry. But I'm quite new to Swedish trad (strange, but I started out with bluegrass and Irish music on the mandolin). I'm going to ask my boyfriend, he's been into Swedish trad for several years. By the way, about Irish polkas, I think I've heard more Irish than Swedish polkas. Those CD:s you mention sound really interesting. I have a CD somewhere with a band from Kerry (I guess), playing more or less polkas all the time. I don't remember their name though. Edited December 1, 2005 by Susanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susanne Posted December 1, 2005 Author Share Posted December 1, 2005 I'm sorry, but my boyfriend doesn't know what a guckulåt is. I guess we'll have to live with that. Nice tune anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 I'm sorry, but my boyfriend doesn't know what a guckulåt is. I guess we'll have to live with that. Nice tune anyway. Well, since the Swedes don't seem to know what that "Swedish" word is, I'll do a little speculating, bfore someone gets around to asking Josefs Lars: The English bird "cuckoo" is "gök" in Swedish, but in English "cuckoo" is also an adjective meaning "crazy". So maybe "gucku" is a word borrowed from the English -- a frequent occurrence here in Denmark and I think not uncommon in Sweden, either -- by someone who wanted a "crazy" way to say "crazy". They could know from American/English movies and TV that the word sounding like "gucku" means "crazy", without knowing or perhaps without caring that it's also the name of a bird for which Swedish already has a word. So I'll guess that the name simply means "crazy tune". The only problem I find with that -- aside from the possibility that I could be proven wrong -- is that the tune doesn't seem nearly strange enough to deserve such a name. But I think Swedes are generally more reserved than I am, and maybe what I would call "gucku" they would call "sinnessjuk" (insane). By the way, I reread what Henrik wrote: "I did a new version, close enough to the original." That tells me that his mp3 is really the original tune, not his own. So I'm still hoping he'll give us his own tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cream-T Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 A quick aside for you lovers of Swedish tunes - if you get the chance, check out the CDs by a young English band called "422", who are really wonderful! No concertina, but featuring a piano accordion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 A quick aside for you lovers of Swedish tunes - if you get the chance, check out the CDs by a young English band called "422", who are really wonderful! No concertina, but featuring a piano accordion. I hope they do another recording before long. Somebody told me that their fiddler Sophie has recently taken up English concertina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Brook Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Sam Pirt (the PA player from 422) is exceptionally good. Even though "I don't like PA" I'll go and see him in concert. Lots of drive, energy but also sensitivity when needed and tunes from Spain, France, Scandinavia, England. He even does a seated step dance whilst playing which is very effective. Not to be missed if you get the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cream-T Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 (edited) 422's third album has come out this year! It's called "Major Third" and is available directly from the band (it takes Amazon 4-6 weeks for delivery). I'll dig out the details from my email this weekend and post it here, I haven't got round to ordering it myself! Sam is one of the tutors at the excllent Summer School http://www.burwellbash.info and I've had many great sessions with him there. I saw 422 play at Wallingford Bunkfest this year - one of the real highlights of the festival! I agree with Peter: catch them when you can! Edited December 2, 2005 by Cream-T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animaterra Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Sam is one of the nicest young men of my acquaintence, and a brilliant musician and a fine teacher. You can't go wrong listening to him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cream-T Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 You know him, too? He does get everywhere, doesn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animaterra Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 I first met Sam when my friend Bill Sables brought him over with Ian Stephenson to play around the eastern US a bit. They came to my school, charmed my preadolescent daughter, delighted my friends and students with their music. I saw Sam again this past summer when I was in Yorkshire. He played for a couple of ceilidh dances Bill was calling. (And he drove us to the best chippie I have ever been too- in Snaeth- they were using fresh new potatoes and I want some right now!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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