Dave Rogers Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Looks like a nice one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=250473458325 I wonder why Chris Algar has put it on eBay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterT Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Looks like a nice one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=250473458325 I wonder why Chris Algar has put it on eBay? And I think we know who used to own it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Rogers Posted August 1, 2009 Author Share Posted August 1, 2009 Looks like a nice one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=250473458325 I wonder why Chris Algar has put it on eBay? And I think we know who used to own it! Oozat then?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjcjones Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Looks like a nice one: It is. But the opportunity to buy a new Dipper came along, and how could I turn down an opportunity like that? I was sorry to see it go, but I couldn't afford to keep both. I hope Chris gets a good price for it. Geoff Crabb told me it was made in October 1924. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael sam wild Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 (edited) Interesting comment by Chris on ebay about conversion to G/D was that introduced by the D/G melodeon phenomenon oin the 50s onwards for morris and trad music? He says he knows of very few originally tuned D/Gs Who did the original conversions and from which keys? Edited August 7, 2009 by michael sam wild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Rogers Posted August 7, 2009 Author Share Posted August 7, 2009 I believe that most were Ab/Eb originally, but I don't know who was the first to do a conversion to G/D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Prebble Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 Much the same with 'C/G' Jeffries I'll hazard a wild guess that perhaps a third of such instruments today, when closely inspected, were originally Bb/F (I can hear the rustle of screwdrivers whipping off endplates from here ) Dave Interesting comment by Chris on ebay about conversion to G/D was that introduced by the D/G melodeon phenomenon oin the 50s onwards for morris and trad music? He says he knows of very few originally tuned D/Gs Who did the original conversions and from which keys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael sam wild Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 I have a Lachenal G/D , G is mid, D inner. G is an octave down from that on my C/G Is the normal arrangemt for D/G like that or do some people have D mid and G inner? ie with mid row reeds sharpened to D scale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Rogers Posted August 10, 2009 Author Share Posted August 10, 2009 My Ball Beavon (Crabb) 31 key G/D is G mid, D inner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_boveri Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 I have a Lachenal G/D , G is mid, D inner. G is an octave down from that on my C/G Is the normal arrangemt for D/G like that or do some people have D mid and G inner? ie with mid row reeds sharpened to D scale? G/D as you describe is the normal layout. a friend of mine and i were actually thinking about D/G as being an interesting combination--C row tuned up a full step, and G left alone. i have never heard of it being done, but it may have been (i am no expert by any means). this is because it is traditional to have the inner row tuned up a fifth from the middle row. having the inner row a fourth up would mean you would have to relearn fingerings and all that, and would be unable to play any other concertinas. with a G/D, you can play a C/G no problem... it just transposes up. the biggest problem with a D/G would be that you wouldnt have one of the largest benefits of a G/D: you can transpose the G/D back up a fifth to be in normal pitch (i play irish music), which means you get so many more chording possibilities, while playing the same notes as a C/G. this means you end up having to do a lot of "little finger" work on the right hand, but it's really fun. with a D/G, it would be basically the same as playing D tunes in C as they used to (back in the old days), but then the tunes would be pitched in D. this hardly gives you any more chording possibilities--it just makes it easier. so, from being easier... D/G makes a lot of sense, but being more fun, G/D is the way to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Weinstein Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 I have something close to that, I just went in the opposite direction. The D row is down a fourth from the G, rather than up a fifth. Layout linked below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjcjones Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 I have something close to that, I just went in the opposite direction. The D row is down a fourth from the G, rather than up a fifth. This is similar to a melodeon, at least on the right hand. Is this how Colin Dipper's "Franglo" is arranged? I've seen one but didn't have the chance to play it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Timson Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 Is this how Colin Dipper's "Franglo" is arranged? I've seen one but didn't have the chance to play it. I believe it's based on the continental G/C melodeon, hence the name "French anglo" (OK, yes, I know, and Emmanuel Pariselle). Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Chambers Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 ... hence the name "French anglo" "Franglo" is also what they sometimes call an English ex-pat living in France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_boveri Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I have something close to that, I just went in the opposite direction. The D row is down a fourth from the G, rather than up a fifth. Layout linked below. cool. how do you like it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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