Joseph Scates website

[chris]

Hi

concertina.net regulars may have noticed my interest in 'Joseph Scates Manufacturer and Professor of the Concertina'

Some of my research is on a website called - Joseph Scate Concertinas -surprise surprise

Part of the research involved 'genealogy' genealogy can be frustrating and in the bits between 'breakthroughs' I looked at a couple of the other makers - Lachenal and Chidley, trees for them can be found on the site.

There are also some pictures .

So, for you insomniacs I have put the address below.

I would welcome any comments

chris

 

Visit My Website

[Dan Worrall]

Hi

concertina.net regulars may have noticed my interest in 'Joseph Scates Manufacturer and Professor of the Concertina'

Some of my research is on a website called - Joseph Scate Concertinas -surprise surprise

Part of the research involved 'genealogy' genealogy can be frustrating and in the bits between 'breakthroughs' I looked at a couple of the other makers - Lachenal and Chidley, trees for them can be found on the site.

There are also some pictures .

So, for you insomniacs I have put the address below.

I would welcome any comments

chris

 

Visit My Website

Chris,

 

Congrats and thanks for researching all that material, putting it together and posting it all on a website. Those of us who are interested in concertina history will find it very useful. As you well know, Scates was an interesting character, and played a role not only in building English concertinas, but in placing what may have been the first order (to George Jones) for Anglo-German concertinas.

 

Well done!

 

Cheers,

Dan

[MandolinRefugee]

Jeez, how does that circular fret work? The ends are made of 2 independent components, I assume?

[chris]

Hi

Dan

thanks for your comments.

 

Mandolinrefugee

I've not taken one of this model to pieces but judging by the ones that I have dismantled The fret work is not structural and I can see a number of ways in which it could be put together. Maybe one of the forums repairers/restorers/experts has worked on one of these (circular fret model concertina Scates or Wheatstone) and can say exactly how they are put together.

chris

[JimLucas]

Jeez, how does that circular fret work?

I think Scates had an apprentice, name of Harry Potter.

[JimLucas]

Jeez, how does that circular fret work? The ends are made of 2 independent components, I assume?

At least three.

• The "rim" around the circular cutout, which is held in place by the end bolts.
  
  
• The inner circle, containing the buttons, which is held in place by the screws and posts for the thumb loop and the finger plate.
  
  
• The baffle, lying under the circular cutout.
  
  

I've never had one of these open, but I would expect additional post supports for each of the three pieces, as well as cork spacers between the surface pieces and the baffle.

[chris]

Hi

I've added a 'timeline' to my Scates website. This covers some of the other makers. Treat it with a bit of caution because, as I've said in its intro, it was just a means of recording info, and as such the'attributions' are a bit general. The info is out there and is 'probably' in one of the sources quoted- if you use it then double check it!!!

chris

 

 

if you spot any 'glaring' errors -please let me know It can be altered!

Edited October 13, 2009 by chris

[chris]

Hi

I've updated my Scates website to include some images contributed by Rock Chidley's Great Great Grandson. These are:-

An artist drawing of Rock Chidley's Factory (not sure of its exact location- any info would be great)

A picture of Rock Chidley's Patent Railway Carriage 'gadget'

A photo of Sydney Chidley's shop at 466 Chiswick High Road

An arragement by Sydney Chidley of 'Benedictus'

I've also updated the 'Chidley tree' and thanks go to Wes Williams for the info that he sent me.

chris

[michael sam wild]

Hi Chris nice meeting you at ICA AGM yesterday. I like your website and the insight it's givem me into another ramification .

Mike

[chris]

Hi Mike

thanks. Nice meeting you too.I liked Keith's comment about making the concertina Englands National instrument.

chris

[JimLucas]

thanks. Nice meeting you too.I liked Keith's comment about making the concertina Englands National instrument.

A goal I heartily disapprove of.

Why? Because if you succeed, then control freaks, especially political ones, will attempt to take over -- even legislate -- anything and everything related to concertinas.

[michael sam wild]

The EC appears to be the only instrument which originally came out England. The context of Keith's commnet atthe meeting was that it might make it popular with youngsters.

 

In fact I'd be scared of it having the reputation of the recorder. A great little instrument in the right hands but loathed by many for its school association.

 

Maybe an appearance of a good player on X Factor or Britain's Got Talent would do it.

 

It only took Elvis 's Heartbreak Hotel and Lonnie Donegan's version of Rock Island Line on steam radio to turn me and thousands like me into budding musicians.

Edited November 8, 2009 by michael sam wild