Melodeon help (SORRY)

[stevejay]

Is this site...

 

http://www.trekzakpagina.nl/songsdiversen.php

 

showing examples of the pdf versions of the song with a "turned" or flipped reed reversal? Please help lol. I have (will have) a c/f and want to know if it's worth having the reed flipped.

[TonyRussell]

"I have (will have) a c/f ........"

Was that the pokerwork on eBay? I was outbid on that well done if you got it .Tony. (Try mel.net again - c.you there?)

Edited July 7, 2009 by TonyRussell

[Marien]

showing examples of the pdf versions of the song with a "turned" or flipped reed reversal? Please help lol. I have (will have) a c/f and want to know if it's worth having the reed flipped.

 

Hello stevejay and welcome on concertina net.

 

About the melodeon question, overhere in the Netherlands they turn reeds a lot on 2 row boxes.

 

Some teachers strongly (or should I say strangely) advise you to reverse the reed, and only teach people if their reeds are turned. For many tunes it may help. With a flipped C/F box you'll have a C on push and pull on the right hand side.

 

But other teachers do not like the reversed reeds. Many other tunes are easier to play without the flipped reed. In both cases you'll have certain limitations. My C/F melodeon is in the original tuning, and I'll keep it that way.

 

rgrds

[m3838]

Is this site...

 

http://www.trekzakpagina.nl/songsdiversen.php

 

showing examples of the pdf versions of the song with a "turned" or flipped reed reversal? Please help lol. I have (will have) a c/f and want to know if it's worth having the reed flipped.

 

I listened to "Katyushka" (katyusha) and to the gipsy version (Poland). If these are representative of the overall quality of arrangements, stay away from that site. You'll learn exactly what they teach you - nothing. Katyushka was the most bizarre abuse of the tune, beginning with the name. Truly horrific.

[stevejay]

Thanks for help so far. Probably I'll leave the tuning alone... I have some window of opportunity since it's in the shop, but anyway...

 

 

If you are talking abput the blonde one for over $300? Well it WAS NOT in tune and it was not serviced by any "professional" repair person. It was in my possession 1 day before it was shipped out for repair. Not a great bargain, don't feel too bad. I was burnt a bit, the instruments description was cut and pasted from somewere else. Cosmetically it is good though, except for the broken button which I wasn't told about.

Edited July 7, 2009 by stevejay

[stevejay]

http://www.trekzakpagina.nl/songs.php

 

Whats so bad about the samples here under the French music?

 

A lot of these tunes are abused anyway, the nature of folk music. I'll compare versions anyway.

 

Midis are from h*ll but the mp3s are ok, and there is a skeleton of the tune in pdf to assist. It actually seems all right, and I considered learning to read for the c/f rather than d/g, but my instincts are to learn to read and pull chords for the d/g.

 

What do you think?

Edited July 7, 2009 by stevejay

[m3838]

http://www.trekzakpagina.nl/songs.php

 

Whats so bad about the samples here under the French music?

 

A lot of these tunes are abused anyway, the nature of folk music. I'll compare versions anyway.

 

Midis are from h*ll but the mp3s are ok, and there is a skeleton of the tune in pdf to assist. It actually seems all right, and I considered learning to read for the c/f rather than d/g, but my instincts are to learn to read and pull chords for the d/g.

 

What do you think?

 

My instrument was in G/C and I learned to read in G/C. For transpostion I just use my A/D and C/F, but pretend it's in G/C. The chords are easier to figure out, I used to count 5 tones down or up and put the symbols in. If that's what you mean. I don't know about french tunes much, but "russian" and "gypsy" are wrong, poor by-ear transcriptions. Katyusha particularly is not a folk song and it's abuse is not justified. One can easily find author's version with all notes and sounds and versions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxC6F9kIT5s

[stevejay]

Well anyway looking forward to getting the c/f, and it will be fun to experiment. There isn't going to be much out there written for a c/f, and for some reason I am tempted to learn to read for it rather than pretend it's a d/g. A c/f will play key of G, but I won't be using the bass buttons much.

 

I still play my concertina, just needed a change.

[m3838]

Well anyway looking forward to getting the c/f, and it will be fun to experiment. There isn't going to be much out there written for a c/f, and for some reason I am tempted to learn to read for it rather than pretend it's a d/g. A c/f will play key of G, but I won't be using the bass buttons much.

 

I still play my concertina, just needed a change.

There's lots written for G/C (french stuff) and lots written for C/F (german stuff), and lots for D/G(English-Irish stuff). Unless you want to use C/F for D tunes you have little to worry about.

C/F shouldn't play in G, unless you will grab F# from the top of the keyboard, if it's there, but it's very limiting option. If you really want to play mainstream D/G repertoire, get a D/G, why not?

If you have a Hohner or Weltmeister, you can order set of reed banks in D/G - an option. I guess, if you'll play mostly for D/G, your C/F banks will collect dust. If you will try to use C/F to play in G, I think you'll have back thoughts more often than anticipated. What's wrong with those juicy german tunes in C maj and rich chords?

[Theo]

Melodeon help (SORRY), Melodeon.net hasn't added me in too long

 

Stevejay, your membership of melodeon.net was completed on July 3rd, its possible the confirming email failed to reach you, but there is nothing stopping you contributing over there.

 

Theo

(melodeon.net admin)