AnnC Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Luckily I noticiced this thread before going to open the PM and by the time I got around to warily looking at my folder to delete it the rogue message had been removed 1. About a year ago my Dipper CG anglo was stolen in Dublin. The thief even had the audacity to phone me and negotiate a 'ransom' (my card was in the case). All to no avail - he never showed. Just woould like to put the word out again in case anyone knows of a Dipper being sold. It has a couple of modified features which could help identification. I have a Jeffries now but really miss the Dipper. Cheers banjo1 Any photos of your Dipper so if it passes this way I can recognise it and raise the alarm? Cheers Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolian Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I received the same message from "JUSTRAKOP". My policy has always been - Never follow links in messages, go to the sites from your internet browser. This stops fraudulent routing to websites you would never normally visit by people who only wish you harm. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikefule Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Playing a concertina (or indeed any instrument) on a unicycle must be fun to do and watch. Ian I've played melodeon whilst unicycling, but never a musical instrument. ;0) Mainly I ride cross country, rather than performing for entertainment. Some cruel people say my concertina playing is rough, muddy and not really entertainment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozymandias Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 This happens from time to time in forums. It costs nothing to send spam, and they work on the basis that one reply in a million is better than no replies. In the unicycle forum, the current "spam du jour" is, ironically, from a catering company! Just ignore any private messages that don't have an obvious concertina-related subject line. Good advice and I will be more careful from now on responding to PM's, especially from sites I rarely visit. It's so much like an arm's race, build a better spambot barrier and someone builds a better spambot! Oh well, till next time, happy music making to all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiddlerjoebob Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Good advice and I will be more careful from now on responding to PM's, especially from sites I rarely visit. It's so much like an arm's race, build a better spambot barrier and someone builds a better spambot! It is the same people...day job, spam police....night job...pirate....its the perfect job security. FJB and I thought some nice person had sent me a special note too... waaaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_mcsweeney Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I got it too, 2 copies, fortunately I smelt a rat and deleted them on the basis that if I genuinely had a PM I could pick it up via the website. Very many thanks to Paul for dealing with the problem quickly. Regards to all, Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I registered for this site ages ago, but I thought I did not complete the final registration bit. So I was surpriced this morning to get the personal message. Thinking this was an inquiry into why I had not completed registration, opened the pm and followed completed the letter and number bit. Then I realised what it was so deleted it and blocked anymore pms from this 'member'. Now my email address which was relatively clean of junk, is full of spam which is a shame as all the viagra adds used to go to my 'competition' email. now they will be on my good one. Why do these idiots have to do this? I would never buy anything from these people surely nobody else does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirge Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I registered for this site ages ago, but I thought I did not complete the final registration bit. So I was surpriced this morning to get the personal message. Thinking this was an inquiry into why I had not completed registration, opened the pm and followed completed the letter and number bit. Then I realised what it was so deleted it and blocked anymore pms from this 'member'. Now my email address which was relatively clean of junk, is full of spam which is a shame as all the viagra adds used to go to my 'competition' email. now they will be on my good one. Why do these idiots have to do this? I would never buy anything from these people surely nobody else does. Well clearly one person in a million does. That man needs attention with a large stick in a dark alley for the trouble he causes the rest of us. And clearly a lot more men than I realised have problems in bed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozymandias Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I registered for this site ages ago, but I thought I did not complete the final registration bit. So I was surpriced this morning to get the personal message. Thinking this was an inquiry into why I had not completed registration, opened the pm and followed completed the letter and number bit. Then I realised what it was so deleted it and blocked anymore pms from this 'member'. Now my email address which was relatively clean of junk, is full of spam which is a shame as all the viagra adds used to go to my 'competition' email. now they will be on my good one. Why do these idiots have to do this? I would never buy anything from these people surely nobody else does. Well clearly one person in a million does. That man needs attention with a large stick in a dark alley for the trouble he causes the rest of us. And clearly a lot more men than I realised have problems in bed... My wife is a pharmacist and you would be surprised at how many Viagra and cialis prescriptions she fills. There ought to be a song somewhere in the theme of this tread. "Got dem ol' spambot shilling, prescription filling, viagra and ciaaaalis blues." As for why people buy from these people, your guess is as good as mine. It is cheaper, but as my wife would point out order from these people and what you get ain't what you thought you were buying. Counterfeit drugs are big business. Caveat Emptor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm clapp Posted April 28, 2009 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Playing a concertina (or indeed any instrument) on a unicycle must be fun to do and watch. Ian I've played melodeon whilst unicycling, but never a musical instrument. ;0) At the recent National Folk Festival in Oz, we were treated to the site and sound of a young Highland piper unicycling around the oval. He didn't miss a note or fall off in his nearly 10 minute jaunt. The fellow in question is learning piano accordion; so next year.... MC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick King Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 Hi all, great to be back on here agin. It's been a loooooong time since I've been on here. I got the same message as all of you. I reported it to Paul Schwartz immediately, and he got back to me immediately. (This site has excellent service as I've said loads of times before. I moved my cursor over the top of the text and it came up with the site down the bottom as always. I did not dare go on the page, just in case. I still haven't got rid of that personal message, but am going to do it straight after this. Mr. Schwartz said it was a spammer and that everybody else had got that personal message. So, having a quick look on concertina.net, I found this forum, and much to my delight, it looks like most people have not had any problems with it; but with saying that, I still have to take into account that people like that, sending spam and all sorts, are a pain in the body (anywhere.) I don't think they should get away with it; why don't they go get a real job, instead of wrecking friendly sites like this up or something, and wasting people's time. Regards to all, Patrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Lawton Posted April 29, 2009 Share Posted April 29, 2009 I got one too. It was from shiny new member "justrakop" who is clearly here for spamming. I didn't follow the link so I can't report on the virus load, but I wouldn't be surprised either. Yeah.. me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teresa Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I also received a message from justrakop on the 27th. That is the reason why I am now inscribed in this forum As much as I can remember (a long time ago) I wrote somewhere I am owner of concertine Wheatstone number 31066. I could detect it in a handwritten ledger of the company. Rgds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 ...people like that, sending spam and all sorts, are a pain in the body (anywhere.) I don't think they should get away with it; why don't they go get a real job, instead of wrecking friendly sites like this up or something, and wasting people's time. Is that really a serious question??? Because if it is, here's a serious answer: There are many different kinds of people in the world, and they do not all share the same values, desires, and emotions as you or I do. A quick look at the news headlines on nearly any day should be proof of that. It takes more than a desire to avoid getting "a real job" (whatever that is) to motivate someone to commit most of the acts that make the headlines. (Because this is Concertina.net, I am deliberately not going into graphic detail. Many of those acts are considered to be "heinous crimes" by our society, though for some reason running for public office and appearing on "reality" TV are not. ) And the values and motivations of the people committing these acts -- or even one particular sort of act, such as phishing, spamming, and stealing or destroying the data belonging to complete strangers -- are justs as varied. One may do it out of a feeling of arrogant superiority, another to overcome a feeling of inferiority, and another to test his/her own technological cleverness. Yet others may actually feel that they are providing a public service, and that any attempt at prosecution would actually be persecution. The one thing that seems certain is that if you and they had the same feelings and values, either they wouldn't be doing what they're doing, or you would quite likely also be doing it. Well, maybe your question wasn't meant seriously, but only as an expression of frustration? I don't know, but even if so, you can see that it has a serious answer. If you want someone to change their behavior, simply admonishing them to behave according to your own principles isn't likely to be enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 As for why people buy from these people, your guess is as good as mine. It is cheaper, but as my wife would point out order from these people and what you get ain't what you thought you were buying. Counterfeit drugs are big business. I'm told that the same is true of accepting payment and delivering nothing at all. Caveat Emptor That's Latin for, "Let the buyer beware," yes? Interesting that the Latin word for "buyer" is so similar to the English word "empty". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishtar Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 I am an administrator on another forum, and these things come in all the time. Their userids are usually created early in the morning, mostly from Russian or Ukrainian origin IPs at the moment, and the usernames are rubbish. Why do people do it? Because if it works, the rewards can be high, for virtually no outlay costs. Imagine it takes you an hour to set up your spambot. It doesn't matter how many emails it sends out, you only need one person to fall for it and you have, say, 50 euros/pounds/dollars for your hour's work. Tax-free income! If it works, you do it again, always keeping ahead of the game. If it doesn't work, you haven't lost very much. (This example is totally invented, btw - I have no idea how much a box of Viagra costs, but you get the idea!). It's just the internet equivalent of snake-oil peddlers, or the people who used to sell "X-ray specs" on the back of kiddies' comics, or people who sell dodgy second-hand cars. Or pickpockets. Or any other of the millions of "nice little earners" that people have always done throughout history. This Wikipedia article about spam is not particularly good, but it does cover most angles of the problem. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_(electronic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptarmigan Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 Sadly, it just shows how gullible & vulnerable some people can be, especially when they are on the Net. By the way Ishtar, where can I send my money, I really must get myself a pair of those "X-ray specs"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimLucas Posted May 2, 2009 Share Posted May 2, 2009 By the way Ishtar, where can I send my money, I really must get myself a pair of those "X-ray specs"? Don't waste your money. Unless you have a convenient source of x-rays (normally found only in a doctor's or dentist's office), you won't be able to see anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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